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2/11 Is WXYZ off the air for the repack?

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2/11 Is WXYZ off the air for the repack?

Post by videocollectore » Tue Feb 11, 2020 11:59 am

Is it just me or is channel 7 WXYZ current off the air? I've tried multiple rescans and have gotten nothing. Is this possibly due to the repack?



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Re: 2/11 Is WXYZ off the air for the repack?

Post by BuckNaked » Tue Feb 11, 2020 12:13 pm

videocollectore wrote:Is it just me or is channel 7 WXYZ current off the air? I've tried multiple rescans and have gotten nothing. Is this possibly due to the repack?
I had issues with them yesterday afternoon in Commerce. They were back when I rescanned yesterday evening. Don’t know what the issue is



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Re: 2/11 Is WXYZ off the air for the repack?

Post by BuckNaked » Tue Feb 11, 2020 12:14 pm

videocollectore wrote:Is it just me or is channel 7 WXYZ current off the air? I've tried multiple rescans and have gotten nothing. Is this possibly due to the repack?
I had issues with them yesterday afternoon in Commerce. They were back when I rescanned yesterday evening. Don’t know what the issue is



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Re: 2/11 Is WXYZ off the air for the repack?

Post by jsf » Tue Feb 11, 2020 12:28 pm

Some kinda change with FCC, they mentioned it over the weekend



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Re: 2/11 Is WXYZ off the air for the repack?

Post by SolarMax » Tue Feb 11, 2020 12:51 pm

Lots of tower crews working around here as the March 13 cutover date approaches for many stations (that "kinda change thing with the FCC" that's been going on). Old antennas being removed or decommissioned, new ones going up, new transmission lines, etc. Any time while workers on a tower will be near an active antenna, shutdowns or power reductions are done for safety.



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Re: 2/11 Is WXYZ off the air for the repack?

Post by km1125 » Tue Feb 11, 2020 3:33 pm

They had a scroll yesterday (or maybe the day before) saying they were moving to a temporary antenna or transmitter to prepare for the repack, so your reception might be affected. I have sporadic periods where I can't get it but it comes in good other times.



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Re: 2/11 Is WXYZ off the air for the repack?

Post by Editorcj » Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:13 pm

Ch 7 changed the transmitter on top of the tower on 10 mile in Southfield using a large industrial helicopter Monday. Some tweaks were still going on today.



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Re: 2/11 Is WXYZ off the air for the repack?

Post by SolarMax » Wed Feb 12, 2020 1:03 pm

Editorcj wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:13 pm
Ch 7 changed the transmitter on top of the tower on 10 mile in Southfield using a large industrial helicopter Monday. Some tweaks were still going on today.
Just to nit-pick :) , they changed out the antenna. The transmitter is in a building on the ground.
There will be helo lifts soon at the 8 Mile tower for WTVS (WWJ-TV's antenna went up a few weeks ago), and for WPXD on the WKBD tower site. They're cool to watch. Don't know what WDIV's schedule is.



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Re: 2/11 Is WXYZ off the air for the repack?

Post by SixPlusOne » Wed Feb 12, 2020 2:41 pm

SolarMax wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 12:51 pm
Lots of tower crews working around here as the March 13 cutover date approaches for many stations...........
Station: WADL - Independent 38
Market: Detroit, MI
*Timeframe: Phase 8: January 18, 2020 -
March 13, 2020

Station: WDIV-TV - NBC 4 NBC
Market: Detroit, MI
Rescan Day:
March 13, 2020

Station: WPXD-TV - ION Media Networks 31 ION
Market: Detroit, MI
Rescan Day:
March 13, 2020

Station: WTVS - Public Television 56 PBS
Market: Detroit, MI
Rescan Day:
March 13, 2020

Station: WWJ-TV - CBS 62 CBS
Market: Detroit, MI
*Timeframe: Phase 8: January 18, 2020 -
March 13, 2020

Station: WXYZ-TV - ABC 7 ABC
Market: Detroit, MI
*Timeframe: Phase 8: January 18, 2020 -
March 13, 2020

Station: WLPC-CD - Religious 28
Market: Detroit, MI
*Timeframe: Phase 8: January 18, 2020 -
March 13, 2020



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Re: 2/11 Is WXYZ off the air for the repack?

Post by SolarMax » Thu Feb 13, 2020 12:25 am

WXYZ has begun airing announcements that March 7 is their cutover date for OTA viewers to rescan.
Others go on March 13, or sooner. So OTA viewers will have to rescan after each station changes over. Hopefully the cable operators will be on top of this for their subscribers, who do, after all, pay a ridiculous add-on "Broadcast TV access" fee.



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Re: 2/11 Is WXYZ off the air for the repack?

Post by km1125 » Thu Feb 13, 2020 10:44 am

SolarMax wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 12:25 am
WXYZ has begun airing announcements that March 7 is their cutover date for OTA viewers to rescan.
Others go on March 13, or sooner. So OTA viewers will have to rescan after each station changes over. Hopefully the cable operators will be on top of this for their subscribers, who do, after all, pay a ridiculous add-on "Broadcast TV access" fee.
The big cable operator in the area has direct fiber feeds to all the major stations, so those won't be impacted. They can stay on the "air" even if they took their tower down for weeks. There is a backup feed using over-the-air but it's not used unless there is an issue on the fiber.

As an additional tidbit of info... this is also used (or was) to provide something we called "split signal", whereas the commercial inserts for over-the-air broadcast were different from those going over the fiber link. This would result in non-cable customers seeing different versions of commercials that were intended for non-cable customers and cable customers seeing a version suited for current customers. This was mostly for "new customer" offers vs "upsell" or "retention" ads.



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Re: 2/11 Is WXYZ off the air for the repack?

Post by innate-in-you » Sun Feb 16, 2020 12:55 pm

Being on adjacent channels, couldn't WWJ-TV and WTVS duplex 21 and 22 through the same antenna?



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Re: 2/11 Is WXYZ off the air for the repack?

Post by SixPlusOne » Sun Feb 16, 2020 6:08 pm

videocollectore wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 11:59 am
Is it just me or is channel 7 WXYZ currently off the air?
It appears that today (Sunday-Feb. 16, 2020 at 6PM and probably earlier as well they are off (OTA) again. They're probably using the break in the weather to their advantage.

I left my flat screen on in case it came back and sure enough at about 6:18 PM Action News came on.



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Re: 2/11 Is WXYZ off the air for the repack?

Post by tvbobn » Sun Feb 16, 2020 8:11 pm

SixPlusOne wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 2:41 pm
SolarMax wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 12:51 pm
Lots of tower crews working around here as the March 13 cutover date approaches for many stations...........
Station: WADL - Independent 38
Market: Detroit, MI
*Timeframe: Phase 8: January 18, 2020 -
March 13, 2020

Station: WDIV-TV - NBC 4 NBC
Market: Detroit, MI
Rescan Day:
March 13, 2020

Station: WPXD-TV - ION Media Networks 31 ION
Market: Detroit, MI
Rescan Day:
March 13, 2020

Station: WTVS - Public Television 56 PBS
Market: Detroit, MI
Rescan Day:
March 13, 2020

Station: WWJ-TV - CBS 62 CBS
Market: Detroit, MI
*Timeframe: Phase 8: January 18, 2020 -
March 13, 2020

Station: WXYZ-TV - ABC 7 ABC
Market: Detroit, MI
*Timeframe: Phase 8: January 18, 2020 -
March 13, 2020

Station: WLPC-CD - Religious 28
Market: Detroit, MI
*Timeframe: Phase 8: January 18, 2020 -
March 13, 2020
You missed:
WHNE-LD - Independent 14 (Going to 3)
Market: Detroit, MI
Timeframe: Phase 8:
March 13, 2020


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Re: 2/11 Is WXYZ off the air for the repack?

Post by MWmetalhead » Mon Feb 17, 2020 1:41 pm

As the crow flies, I'm only about six or seven miles from the WHNE tower site. I'll report reception results here once the switch occurs.


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