All accepted registrations through February 24 at 8:30p ET have been activated. Thank you! -M.W.

Terms of Use have been amended effective October 6, 2019. Make sure you are aware of the new rules! Please visit this thread for details: https://www.mibuzzboard.com/phpBB3/view ... 16&t=48619

102.7 K-Love is now broadcasting from Oak Park

Discussion pertaining to Detroit, Ann Arbor, Port Huron, and SW Ontario
User avatar
MWmetalhead
Site Admin
Posts: 3112
Joined: Sun Oct 31, 2004 11:23 am

102.7 K-Love is now broadcasting from Oak Park

Post by MWmetalhead » Sun Oct 06, 2019 11:18 am

Now we know why the HD signal was turned off for a couple weeks in September and why the Air-1 translators around town were off the air! :hat

Looks like WDKL-FM completed its move from Clinton Township to Oak Park (same tower used by WDRQ and WDMK) on or about September 24.

https://www.fccinfo.com/CMDProEngine.ph ... er=1808756
https://radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/finde ... =wdkl&nav=

I just happened to be driving on the far west end of Metro Detroit on the 28th and noticed W4 seemed a bit more difficult to receive than usual around Novi and Northville. There was enough picket fencing in those communities - especially Novi - to make W4 an uncomfortable listen.

The HD signal of WDKL began waffling once I crossed into Lyon Township (and reception of W4 improved rapidly).

I'd be curious to know if there are areas where W4 once was fairly easy to receive - prior to 102.7 WDKL's move to Oak Park - where reception is now difficult.

Where I live near 14 Mile & Woodward, reception of WDKL has definitely improved and is now on par with the other major FM stations in the area. The HD sidebands are louder than before - simply because I'm receiving a stronger signal now - and that means I can no longer null out the HD sideband noise to receive WWWW.

Heading northwest from Detroit on I-75, I am not sure if the signal carries any farther than it did from the Mt. Clemens site. Around Holly, reception on 102.7 was iffy.


Lori Bennett and Bob Walker have turned WLAV from an iconic classic rock station into a ratings boondoggle. Sad.

tvbobn
Posts: 57
Joined: Sat Dec 04, 2004 3:25 pm

Re: 102.7 K-Love is now broadcasting from Oak Park

Post by tvbobn » Sun Oct 06, 2019 12:01 pm

Actually the tower is in Southfield, not Oak Park.

Structure Address:
24600 Greenfield Rd
Southfield, MI

You are correct that it's the same tower with WDRQ and WDMK.

This is the old school tower site that Bob Liggett bought and built back in the 80's when he owned WABX/WCLS.



innate-in-you
Posts: 350
Joined: Wed Oct 31, 2018 8:54 am

Re: 102.7 K-Love is now broadcasting from Oak Park

Post by innate-in-you » Sun Oct 06, 2019 2:45 pm

An even-numbered address on Greenfield can't actually be in Southfield.

The site is in Oak Park.

However, it is VERY common for a postal address to be outside the actual municipality that the property is in.

For seven years, I lived in a little chunk of Detroit that was served by Redford's post office.

Some letters sent to me were to "Detroit, MI 48239", but many were to "Redford, MI 48239".

As for the TL move, I'm thinking that WADL(TV) could and should make a similar move (yes, they would need a DA with a null to the west and southwest - though the physical move to the OP/Sfld. Tower farm and increased antenna height would more than make up for it, and it would mean that OTA viewers' antennas would be aimed at them.



Y M Ionhere
Posts: 670
Joined: Wed Oct 27, 2010 9:31 pm
Location: Where the sun no longer shines

Re: 102.7 K-Love is now broadcasting from Oak Park

Post by Y M Ionhere » Sun Oct 06, 2019 3:16 pm

innate-in-you wrote:
Sun Oct 06, 2019 2:45 pm
An even-numbered address on Greenfield can't actually be in Southfield.

The site is in Oak Park.

However, it is VERY common for a postal address to be outside the actual municipality that the property is in.

For seven years, I lived in a little chunk of Detroit that was served by Redford's post office.

Some letters sent to me were to "Detroit, MI 48239", but many were to "Redford, MI 48239".

As for the TL move, I'm thinking that WADL(TV) could and should make a similar move (yes, they would need a DA with a null to the west and southwest - though the physical move to the OP/Sfld. Tower farm and increased antenna height would more than make up for it, and it would mean that OTA viewers' antennas would be aimed at them.
Correct.
The senior apartment across the street, on the Southfield side, is 25225. So 24600 would have to be on the OP side.



tvbobn
Posts: 57
Joined: Sat Dec 04, 2004 3:25 pm

Re: 102.7 K-Love is now broadcasting from Oak Park

Post by tvbobn » Sun Oct 06, 2019 6:03 pm

I double checked and you guys are correct, the tower is on the Oak Park side of the street. I was going by the address on record in Washington for the tower site.



Chris1980
Posts: 111
Joined: Sun Nov 04, 2018 9:43 pm

Re: 102.7 K-Love is now broadcasting from Oak Park

Post by Chris1980 » Sun Oct 06, 2019 6:15 pm

I was in Richmond (northeastern Macomb County) a few days ago and suspected WDKL was already broadcasting from the new tower site, since the signal did not seem nearly as strong as before while it seemed a lot stronger than before in Oakland County. The signal here in Whitmore Lake seems about the same as before.



User avatar
MWmetalhead
Site Admin
Posts: 3112
Joined: Sun Oct 31, 2004 11:23 am

Re: 102.7 K-Love is now broadcasting from Oak Park

Post by MWmetalhead » Sun Oct 06, 2019 7:16 pm

I'm somewhat familiar with the area; I've only driven through the 10 Mile & Greenfield intersection a few hundred times over the past decade. :blink

On westbound 10 Mile Rd, immediately west of Greenfield, there is a (rather tired looking) "Southfield City Limit" sign.


Lori Bennett and Bob Walker have turned WLAV from an iconic classic rock station into a ratings boondoggle. Sad.

fuzzpower
Posts: 680
Joined: Sun Mar 17, 2019 3:37 pm

Re: 102.7 K-Love is now broadcasting from Oak Park

Post by fuzzpower » Sun Oct 06, 2019 7:58 pm

In the house radio at least, reception is the same in Canton. 102.9 is still fine, which it should be since I am in their protected area. I will check in the car tomorrow morning.

Speaking of 10/Greenfield, does the former Royal Oak Township section have Oak Park addresses? Most people not living there didn’t even know that wasn’t Oak Park, but seeing a bar there was the obvious sign (Oak Park did not allow bars for decades; the place had to move when the city annexed that portion of the township).



User avatar
SolarMax
Posts: 266
Joined: Sat Dec 04, 2004 5:59 pm
Location: 313

Re: 102.7 K-Love is now broadcasting from Oak Park

Post by SolarMax » Sun Oct 06, 2019 8:52 pm

On the Radio-Locator.com page, clicking on the link for Transmitter Location 42° 28' 16" N, 83° 12' 01" W
redirects to Google Maps, which identifies the site only as 'WQRS-FM Detroit Radio broadcaster"
Seriously, Google? :roll:



Mega Hertz
Posts: 994
Joined: Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:09 pm
Location: Brighton

Re: 102.7 K-Love is now broadcasting from Oak Park

Post by Mega Hertz » Sun Oct 06, 2019 9:51 pm

Still picking up WIOG and WWWW like gangbusters here in Brighton. Not making much difference here I guess.


"Internet is no more like radio than intravenous feeding is like fine dining."
-TurkeyTop

User avatar
MWmetalhead
Site Admin
Posts: 3112
Joined: Sun Oct 31, 2004 11:23 am

Re: 102.7 K-Love is now broadcasting from Oak Park

Post by MWmetalhead » Sun Oct 06, 2019 10:00 pm

That's good news; it means WDKL's new facilities are operating as intended in the general direction of WWWW.


Lori Bennett and Bob Walker have turned WLAV from an iconic classic rock station into a ratings boondoggle. Sad.

CK-722
Posts: 814
Joined: Sun Dec 16, 2018 3:53 pm

Re: 102.7 K-Love is now broadcasting from Oak Park

Post by CK-722 » Sun Oct 06, 2019 11:58 pm

.
Last edited by CK-722 on Mon Oct 07, 2019 12:08 am, edited 1 time in total.


Is THAT where they got the idea for the 486-SX?

Same (x, y, z), different (t)

Your bullet missed my trial balloon.

RTN Price. Not guaranteed. As of 12:30, 157.71 Down 0.22.

Artificial Intelligence is a Child that needs a Parent to guide it through.

CK-722
Posts: 814
Joined: Sun Dec 16, 2018 3:53 pm

Re: 102.7 K-Love is now broadcasting from Oak Park

Post by CK-722 » Sun Oct 06, 2019 11:59 pm

I wonder what the closest first adjacent Class Bs in the nation are. These are around 37 miles apart. The fully spaced distance is 105 miles according to Section 73.207.


Is THAT where they got the idea for the 486-SX?

Same (x, y, z), different (t)

Your bullet missed my trial balloon.

RTN Price. Not guaranteed. As of 12:30, 157.71 Down 0.22.

Artificial Intelligence is a Child that needs a Parent to guide it through.

CK-722
Posts: 814
Joined: Sun Dec 16, 2018 3:53 pm

Re: 102.7 K-Love is now broadcasting from Oak Park

Post by CK-722 » Wed Oct 30, 2019 4:54 am

SolarMax wrote:
Sun Oct 06, 2019 8:52 pm
On the Radio-Locator.com page, clicking on the link for Transmitter Location 42° 28' 16" N, 83° 12' 01" W
redirects to Google Maps, which identifies the site only as 'WQRS-FM Detroit Radio broadcaster"
Seriously, Google? :roll:
105.1 moved to the WCSX tower. I think they thought that they were losing service to the Downtown Detroit area from the lower ERP and location, as they went to 50 kW/150 meters. So now there are three directional licensed main facilities there, plus the AUX facilities, which are nondirectional.


Is THAT where they got the idea for the 486-SX?

Same (x, y, z), different (t)

Your bullet missed my trial balloon.

RTN Price. Not guaranteed. As of 12:30, 157.71 Down 0.22.

Artificial Intelligence is a Child that needs a Parent to guide it through.

User avatar
WOHO
Posts: 262
Joined: Thu Dec 16, 2004 12:05 am
Location: Cumulus has killed 1470 KHz

Re: 102.7 K-Love is now broadcasting from Oak Park

Post by WOHO » Wed Oct 30, 2019 8:45 am

How is the 102.7 K-Love signal downriver Riverview, Wyandotte, Woodhaven? I assume it disappears by Monroe?



Post Reply Previous topicNext topic