Trump commits Federal crime if he purchases a gun

[TC Talks]

Forget Hunter Biden, Trump may have committed yet another Federal crime. Let's revoke bail...

Federal prosecutors said in a Friday night filing that former president Donald Trump may have broken the law if he bought a handgun at a recent campaign stop in South Carolina.

“The defendant either purchased a gun in violation of the law and his conditions of release, or seeks to benefit from his supporters’ mistaken belief that he did so,” the court filing argues. “It would be a separate federal crime, and thus a violation of the defendant’s conditions of release, for him to purchase a gun while this felony indictment is pending.”

The prosecutors were referring to social media posts by the Trump campaign earlier this week, when a staffer posted a video of Trump at the Palmetto State Armory, a gun store in Summerville, S.C.

The video “showed the defendant holding a Glock pistol with the defendant’s likeness etched into it. The defendant stated, ‘I’ve got to buy one,’ and posed for pictures,” the prosecutors’ filing states, noting that the staffer posted the video with a caption that said: “President Trump purchases a @GLOCKInc in South Carolina!”

The campaign staffer later deleted the post and retracted the claim, saying Trump did not purchase or take possession of the gun. The latter claim, prosecutors note in their filing, is “directly contradicted by the video showing the defendant possessing the pistol.”

[Mega Hertz]

FAKE HUNT!

[craig11152]

He didn't buy a gun. He looked at and held a gun, never bought it. It's easy to verify with several reputable news outlets if you care for truth .

[Matt]

https://www.factcheck.org/2023/09/post- ... a-handgun/

[TC Talks]

He didn't buy a gun. He looked at and held a gun, never bought it. It's easy to verify with several reputable news outlets if you care for truth .

This is what Federal Prosecutors have filed in court, nothing to do with your idea of reputable media outlets. Trump may have violated his terms of bail.

But an Instagram post shared a video on Sept. 26 of Trump’s visit to the gun store, with the title, “Trump just bought a handgun!” That was a day after the campaign said Trump did not buy a gun at the store.

On the video, Trump can he heard saying, “I want to buy one,” and he poses with a store employee who is holding a Glock handgun.

[Mega Hertz]

"Holds one and says 'I want to buy one'" isn't the same as buys one, though, TC. If there is an actual exchange, fine.

Now, is he not supposed to be AROUND firearms? Because that could be a different ball game.

[craig11152]

Here is what the law says.

(d) It shall be unlawful for any person to sell or otherwise dispose of any firearm or ammunition to any person knowing or having reasonable cause to believe that such person, including as a juvenile-

(1) is under indictment for, or has been convicted in any court of, a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year;

It seems the law doesn't even address the person under indictment from owning and possessing a gun. It prohibits the sale of a gun which means the seller is the guilty one.

https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req ... on:prelim)

Further down it addresses people convicted possessing a gun but this is the reference to indictment

[craig11152]

Here is a quote from that "right wing rag" the New York Times.....

Under the main federal gun law, 18 U.S.C. 922, it is illegal for merchants to sell firearms to people who are under indictment for crimes carrying sentences of more than a year. Indicted defendants are also barred from shipping or receiving any weapons that have crossed state lines.

But the statute does not appear to prohibit people under indictment from simply buying or possessing weapons.

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Here is a quote from that "right wing rag" the New York Times.....

Under the main federal gun law, 18 U.S.C. 922, it is illegal for merchants to sell firearms to people who are under indictment for crimes carrying sentences of more than a year. Indicted defendants are also barred from shipping or receiving any weapons that have crossed state lines.

But the statute does not appear to prohibit people under indictment from simply buying or possessing weapons.

What the prosecution appears to be doing is creating a paper trail of his actions while he is out on bail… at some point I wouldn’t be surprised if between this and his repeated veiled threats toward other people he gets his bond revoked in one of these places. That would be entirely his own damn fault. Even my dog calms down eventually and listens when I want him to knock it off.

[zzand]

You got the nail on the head. He has not and will not listen. The prosecutor is going before a judge to once again ask for a gag order based on Trump calling for the death of the outgoing joint chiefs of staff head. Doesn't matter if they grant it, the moron will ignore it and eventually a judge will have no choice but to jail him.

[TC Talks]

Here is what the law says.

(d) It shall be unlawful for any person to sell or otherwise dispose of any firearm or ammunition to any person knowing or having reasonable cause to believe that such person, including as a juvenile-

(1) is under indictment for, or has been convicted in any court of, a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year;

It seems the law doesn't even address the person under indictment from owning and possessing a gun. It prohibits the sale of a gun which means the seller is the guilty one.

https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req ... on:prelim)

Further down it addresses people convicted possessing a gun but this is the reference to indictment

Sounds great, take it up with the Justice Department.

[Matt]

You got the nail on the head. He has not and will not listen. The prosecutor is going before a judge to once again ask for a gag order based on Trump calling for the death of the outgoing joint chiefs of staff head. Doesn't matter if they grant it, the moron will ignore it and eventually a judge will have no choice but to jail him.

This is true. The title of this thread is not.

[craig11152]

Here is what the law says.

(d) It shall be unlawful for any person to sell or otherwise dispose of any firearm or ammunition to any person knowing or having reasonable cause to believe that such person, including as a juvenile-

(1) is under indictment for, or has been convicted in any court of, a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year;

It seems the law doesn't even address the person under indictment from owning and possessing a gun. It prohibits the sale of a gun which means the seller is the guilty one.

https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req ... on:prelim)

Further down it addresses people convicted possessing a gun but this is the reference to indictment

Sounds great, take it up with the Justice Department.

How about we wait and see if charges are actually filed?
And if they are filed lets see what a judge says.
It wouldn't be the first time a prosecutor had a case thrown out of court by a judge

[Turkeytop]

It wouldn't be the first time a prosecutor had a case thrown out of court by a judge

Happened with me.

[TC Talks]

Here is what the law says.

(d) It shall be unlawful for any person to sell or otherwise dispose of any firearm or ammunition to any person knowing or having reasonable cause to believe that such person, including as a juvenile-

(1) is under indictment for, or has been convicted in any court of, a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year;

It seems the law doesn't even address the person under indictment from owning and possessing a gun. It prohibits the sale of a gun which means the seller is the guilty one.

https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req ... on:prelim)

Further down it addresses people convicted possessing a gun but this is the reference to indictment

Sounds great, take it up with the Justice Department.

How about we wait and see if charges are actually filed?
And if they are filed lets see what a judge says.
It wouldn't be the first time a prosecutor had a case thrown out of court by a judge

The story was about the Federal Prosecutor not what the judge decides to do. Being prosecuted in Federal court is hardball. You're a law and order type, what do you think happens to suspected criminals when your son arrests them? Isn't he a cop?