So in your second sentence, you lump me in with "you guys" and then just a few sentences later complain about being painted with a "broad brush?" You clearly haven't read my other past comments criticizing Trump and saying literally the day after the election that Joe Biden won, and I think I used the exact phrase, "fair and square." I've been repeatedly calling for him to knock it off with the stolen election nonsense and to rise above it and move on. And I've been calling on prominent conservatives with large microphones to do the same.Mega Hertz wrote: ↑Mon Dec 26, 2022 4:56 pmBmw-
I get it. You guys are the REAL victims. I know, I know. WHATABOUT!? Here's the thing. Be the bigger people. Have the grace. Be above it. Are you just gonna sit here and cry WHATABOUT and OH BUT WHEN IT JAMES MADISON! Be the better group, and you won't have to constantly cry foul. Could I stand Trump? Not in your wildest dreams. Did I recognize he was the president? Yep. That broad brush your stroking with missed people like me, who for four years, gritted my teeth and dealt with it. That was the whole point of my post above.
I'm dying for for someone, ANYONE to stand up and say "Yeah, that sucked. My bad. We'll try harder and do better next time". This race to the bottom/what about/his fault shit is really stale. Really, really, really, really, really stale.
btw - I'm not talking about you anyways. I'm specifically talking about the subgroup of people within both parties who meet the definition of what people on the political left have recently coined as "election deniers." The left pretends like this is a new phenomenon that cropped up in 2020 and exclusively infects the right. I'm simply pointing to polls that suggest this has been going on for over 20 years and that both parties have a roughly equal number of people who fit the "election denier" label. So if the goal is to get both sides to come together and us as a nation move on, this kind of rhetoric isn't going to cut it (ie, blaming one side for where we're at right now).
You're kind of splitting hairs here, dont'cha think? Is it really relevant that Gore conceded on Dec 13 while Trump waited until January? Both concessions happened before the actual end of each person's term as President and both ended with a peaceful transfer of power with the loser voluntarily leaving the White House. Is Trump the epitome of a sore loser? I would say yes, but people like Joe Biden and Al Gore, many years after 2000, still argue that Gore won. Specifically, Joe Biden, on June 15, 2016, in a Sandy Hook Tribute, stated that he believed Al Gore won the 2000 election. And on August 4th, 2017, Al Gore told Bill Maher, and I quote, "actually, I think I carried Florida. But that's another ... we won't go there." Now you could argue that we was responding to a joke with a joke, but it sounds more like sour grapes to me.FakeAndyStuart wrote: ↑Mon Dec 26, 2022 5:19 pm...Donald Trump's "concession" didn't happen until AFTER Jan 6th.
Kinda like your victimhood crying just today that Michigan is dysfunctional because of the Republican-controlled legislature? Or your crying about Musk being a free speech hypocrite by banning journalists for one day from Twitter?