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Katie Hobbs wins Arizona election! Suck It Kari Lake!

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Re: Katie Hobbs wins Arizona election! Suck It Kari Lake!

Post by Bobbert » Tue Nov 15, 2022 10:40 am

zzand wrote:
Tue Nov 15, 2022 9:28 am
Trump is poison to candidates and they are starting to realize this. DeSantis has been asked to speak in Georgia instead of Trump.
As disappointing as this election was for Republicans, they knew that one day they'd have to move on from Trump, and this election started the process. They have reason to feel optimistic about people like DeSantis and Abbott, but they've also got to figure out how to keep Trump from repeating what Theodore Roosevelt did in 1912—run as a third party candidate and split the Republican vote.



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Re: Katie Hobbs wins Arizona election! Suck It Kari Lake!

Post by Taco » Tue Nov 15, 2022 10:44 am

With all these losses I wonder if it will affect Trumpy's upcoming announcement?


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Re: Katie Hobbs wins Arizona election! Suck It Kari Lake!

Post by bmw » Tue Nov 15, 2022 10:44 am

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Tue Nov 15, 2022 10:08 am
Some of that is misleading. The Democrats grossly overplayed their hand and tried to redistrict to the hilt like Florida and Texas have been doing for years. A judge struck their map down that would have netted them 2 or 3 seats. An independent court appointed official drew a new map and that’s where the three seats came from. It’s not like New York doesn’t elect Republicans at all or something. But the Democrats have no reason at all to worry about 2024. None. Zero. They wouldn’t have lost those seats under the old map had they not gotten greedy.
Ok, so they ended up with relatively neutrally-drawn maps. And you have a score of 15-11 D-R.

Again, I'm not suggesting that NY will be in play, but the state is undoubtedly redder than it has been in some time. And as I also noted, Schumer's 56-43 (may end up 57-42 or 58-41 after all counting is finished) is nothing to write home about all things considered. The fact that any Republican was able to crack 40% against the Democrat Senate majority leader from New York is quite astounding IMO.



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Re: Katie Hobbs wins Arizona election! Suck It Kari Lake!

Post by Honeyman » Tue Nov 15, 2022 10:53 am

Bobbert wrote:
Tue Nov 15, 2022 10:40 am
zzand wrote:
Tue Nov 15, 2022 9:28 am
Trump is poison to candidates and they are starting to realize this. DeSantis has been asked to speak in Georgia instead of Trump.
As disappointing as this election was for Republicans, they knew that one day they'd have to move on from Trump, and this election started the process. They have reason to feel optimistic about people like DeSantis and Abbott, but they've also got to figure out how to keep Trump from repeating what Theodore Roosevelt did in 1912—run as a third party candidate and split the Republican vote.
I dont think hell go third party, but he's gonna trash anybody who dares run against him for the Republican nomination. No way this narcissistic treasonist graciously concedes or throws his support behind a viable GOP contender, so they are gonna be fucked anyway you look at.

And the beautiful thing is Republicans have no one to blame for this but themselves.


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Re: Katie Hobbs wins Arizona election! Suck It Kari Lake!

Post by teetoppz28 » Tue Nov 15, 2022 10:55 am

Taco wrote:
Tue Nov 15, 2022 10:44 am
With all these losses I wonder if it will affect Trumpy's upcoming announcement?
But tRump is the ONLY one who can SaVe AmErIcA!! :barf


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Re: Katie Hobbs wins Arizona election! Suck It Kari Lake!

Post by zzand » Tue Nov 15, 2022 11:11 am

I am seeing encouraging signs that the Trump tide is turning. Bill Cunningham on WLW, a staunch Trump supporter, spent 15 minutes yesterday talking about how he needs to step aside for the good and future of the party and let Desantis, among others, take the lead. He said his personal and legal issues will keep him form winning and make it tougher for Real Republicans to gain office. The Guys on Red Eye Radio have also been echoing that sentiment. I take this as a positive sign.



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Re: Katie Hobbs wins Arizona election! Suck It Kari Lake!

Post by Lester The Nightfly » Tue Nov 15, 2022 2:23 pm

zzand wrote:
Tue Nov 15, 2022 10:23 am
Reading that State Law may trigger an automatic recount.
Not in this race at this time. In a story you can file under "Laws of Unexpected Consequences" the Republican AZ Legislature, in their efforts to put their thumb of the scales of elections, enacted revised rules regarding automatic recounts that effectively raised the threshold of the count percentage differences between candidates. Hobbs surpassed those thresholds.

Don't ask me to take you through the math of how it works. It's one of those convoluted formulas with arbitrary numbers funhouse mirror situations but net-net, if the GOP hadn't gotten their fingerprints all over the way it's handled, this race would have absolutely gone to automatic recount.

I believe the Lake campaign can call for a recount but I think they would also be responsible for the costs involved. Think Cyber Ninjas. Generally recounts harvests will yield insignificant enough numbers to change anything. You pays your quarter and takes your chances...



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Post by MotorCityRadioFreak » Tue Nov 15, 2022 4:24 pm

Remember: they aren’t dumping Trump for his fascist ideals. They are dumping him because he can’t win like in 2016. I urge all Dems to support Trump in the 2024 primary so that we can ensure 4 more years of a Democratic President, whether that be Kamala or Joe.


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Re: Katie Hobbs wins Arizona election! Suck It Kari Lake!

Post by Matt » Tue Nov 15, 2022 7:36 pm

MotorCityRadioFreak wrote:
Tue Nov 15, 2022 4:24 pm
Remember: they aren’t dumping Trump for his fascist ideals. They are dumping him because he can’t win like in 2016. I urge all Dems to support Trump in the 2024 primary so that we can ensure 4 more years of a Democratic President, whether that be Kamala or Joe.
Trump is an idiot, not a fascist.


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Re: Katie Hobbs wins Arizona election! Suck It Kari Lake!

Post by Rate This » Tue Nov 15, 2022 7:50 pm

Matt wrote:
Tue Nov 15, 2022 7:36 pm
MotorCityRadioFreak wrote:
Tue Nov 15, 2022 4:24 pm
Remember: they aren’t dumping Trump for his fascist ideals. They are dumping him because he can’t win like in 2016. I urge all Dems to support Trump in the 2024 primary so that we can ensure 4 more years of a Democratic President, whether that be Kamala or Joe.
Trump is an idiot, not a fascist.
Trump is a guy who kept a copy of some of hitlers speeches by his bedside supposedly… there have been numerous Nazi salutes at his rallies… it’s a bit hard to run away from that stuff when it’s on film.



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Re: Katie Hobbs wins Arizona election! Suck It Kari Lake!

Post by TC Talks » Tue Nov 15, 2022 9:04 pm

He's an idiot too stupid to understand that he acts as a fascist would.


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