Joe Manchin

[Deleted User 15783]

Well, I'm reading where Manchin has dealt yet another crushing blow to President Biden’s domestic agenda, effectively ruling out action on anything beyond prescription drug pricing and health care subsidies.

Is it possible Manchin may be the only Democrat that is in tune with what the majority of Americans want? A lone wolf in a sea of lemmings.

[Matt]

Yes.

[Honeyman]

The lack of action NOW on climate change is beyond ignorant & short-sighted, and will be absolutely devastating to the planet. I would lose sleep over this if I had children or grandchildren.

[km1125]

The lack of action NOW on climate change is beyond ignorant & short-sighted, and will be absolutely devastating to the planet. I would lose sleep over this if I had children or grandchildren.

You really should become a comedian!! That shit's funny!!

[Deleted User 15783]

The lack of action NOW on climate change is beyond ignorant & short-sighted, and will be absolutely devastating to the planet. I would lose sleep over this if I had children or grandchildren.

When Homo sapiens is ­finally gone, Earth will give a shudder of relief and clean itself up again, just as it ­always has, over and over, in its 4.6 billion years.

[Bryce]

The lack of action NOW on climate change is beyond ignorant & short-sighted, and will be absolutely devastating to the planet. I would lose sleep over this if I had children or grandchildren.

Answer this for me. What good would initiating climate change procedures due in the United States when countries like China India and many other emerging markets are polluting up a storm?

[Bobbert]

Well, I'm reading where Manchin has dealt yet another crushing blow to President Biden’s domestic agenda, effectively ruling out action on anything beyond prescription drug pricing and health care subsidies.

Is it possible Manchin may be the only Democrat that is in tune with what the majority of Americans want? A lone wolf in a sea of lemmings.

He is probably most in tune with his polling numbers.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 442901001/

[Deleted User 15783]

He is probably most in tune with his polling numbers.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 442901001/

And that's what it's all about. Getting re-elected. Say whatever they want to hear.

[Lester The Nightfly]

He is probably most in tune with his polling numbers.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 442901001/

And that's what it's all about. Getting re-elected. Say whatever they want to hear.

The "they" being coal miners and hillbillies. Let us not forget Manchin founded a coal brokerage firm that his son now runs. His income on dividends in 2020 were upwards of a half million dollars and he still holds between $1M-$5M in non-public shares in the business. Do you honestly believe he would support legislation that goes against his own self-interests?

Please don't attempt to link any motives in Manchin's votes other than keeping the cash flow going. That.is.it.

[TC Talks]

The lack of action NOW on climate change is beyond ignorant & short-sighted, and will be absolutely devastating to the planet. I would lose sleep over this if I had children or grandchildren.

Worry less about the government and focus on pushing industry to make changes.

Every car guy I know has resigned to the reality that everything will be electric within the next 10 years. Industry drives change not policy in many many cases. Industry gives what people ask for.

[Bryce]

Ummm, where the hell is all the electricity needed to power all these cars going to come from? Coal powered plants? Nuclear? Maybe they could rebuild the Sanford Dam?

[bmw]

I think the focus should be starting with individual buildings. It is a shame how few supplement their electrical use with solar panels. Right now you can get GOOD QUALITY:

-panels for about 80 cents/watt,
-LifePo4 batteries for about 31 cents/watt,
-Pure sine wave inverters for about 38 cents/watt
-MPPT Charger controller for about 16 cents/watt

So that's about $1.65 per watt plus you also need some misc. accessories like kill switches, battery protectors, and wiring, and we're still talking quite cheap for solar.

I'm installing a dual-use heap pump/air conditioning unit right now that is rated for heat all the way down to 13 degrees outside and has an efficiency rating for air conditioning of about double that of a window unit. My plan once this is up and running is to power it off an isolated solar circuit. Looking at somewhere between 6 and 9 100w solar panel setup. By my math it should be able to fully cool the house in the summer and provide some supplemental heat in the winter.

So there - just one example of one person doing their part.

[paul8539]

It seems like Manchin is one of the few Democrats that knows that he is talking about.

[MWmetalhead]

Answer this for me. What good would initiating climate change procedures due in the United States when countries like China India and many other emerging markets are polluting up a storm?

Bingo. Completely agree.

[bmw]

But, but, but....we need to lead by example! You know, like how other countries follow our lead of personal liberty and freedom.

And btw - instead of bashing Manchin, Democrats should be thanking him for single-handedly preventing the Democrat party from 100% walking off a cliff and thereby probably saving Dems at least several Senate seats this upcoming election.