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Gun Safety moves forward

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Re: Gun Safety moves forward

Post by Bryce » Mon Jun 13, 2022 6:24 pm

km1125 wrote:
Mon Jun 13, 2022 6:15 pm
Bryce wrote:
Mon Jun 13, 2022 5:59 pm
TC Talks wrote:
Mon Jun 13, 2022 5:16 pm

Firearms were the leading cause of death for kids one and older for the first time in 2020, the most recent year for which CDC data is available.
That statement is only true if you include 18 and 19 year olds in the numbers. They accounted for almost half of the gun related deaths. Last I checked, 18 and 19 year olds are considered to be adults.
And if you pull out the gang-bangers numbers -regardless of their ages- from those "kids" stats, just how low do those numbers drop?
Good point. I guess focusing on ridding the country of gangs isn't woke. Hell the current administration has a welcome sign up for them at the border.


New York and Chicago were all in with respect to their sanctuary status — until they were hit with the challenge of actually providing sanctuary. In other words, typical liberal hypocrisy.

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Re: Gun Safety moves forward

Post by TC Talks » Mon Jun 13, 2022 6:25 pm

Bryce wrote:
Mon Jun 13, 2022 6:19 pm
TC Talks wrote:
Mon Jun 13, 2022 6:05 pm
Firearms were the leading cause of death for kids one and older for the first time in 2020, the most recent year for which CDC data is available.
Bryce wrote:
Mon Jun 13, 2022 5:59 pm
That statement is only true if you include 18 and 19 year olds in the numbers. They accounted for almost half of the gun related deaths. Last I checked, 18 and 19 year olds are considered to be adults.
Guns are killing our teens and children. Thank you for supporting the truth.
So are cars. Should we raise the driving age to 21 for non farming related driving?
If we managed gun safety like car safety, we wouldn't be having this conversation. Think of all the mandated safety systems on cars...


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Re: Gun Safety moves forward

Post by MotorCityRadioFreak » Mon Jun 13, 2022 9:37 pm

If weapons of war were regulated like lawn darts, we wouldn't have these issues.


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Re: Gun Safety moves forward

Post by Bryce » Mon Jun 13, 2022 9:44 pm

MotorCityRadioFreak wrote:
Mon Jun 13, 2022 9:37 pm
If weapons of war were regulated like lawn darts, we wouldn't have these issues.
Wait? They're not regulated?Ever try to buy a RPG?


New York and Chicago were all in with respect to their sanctuary status — until they were hit with the challenge of actually providing sanctuary. In other words, typical liberal hypocrisy.

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Re: Gun Safety moves forward

Post by MotorCityRadioFreak » Mon Jun 13, 2022 9:49 pm

Bryce wrote:
Mon Jun 13, 2022 9:44 pm
MotorCityRadioFreak wrote:
Mon Jun 13, 2022 9:37 pm
If weapons of war were regulated like lawn darts, we wouldn't have these issues.
Wait? They're not regulated?Ever try to buy a RPG?
We're talking AR-15s and other similar automatic weapons.


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Re: Gun Safety moves forward

Post by Bryce » Tue Jun 14, 2022 9:25 am

MotorCityRadioFreak wrote:
Mon Jun 13, 2022 9:49 pm
We're talking AR-15s and other similar automatic weapons.
Automatic weapons are very well regulated and damn near impossible for the average citizen to purchase. Walk into your local gun store and ask them to purchase an automatic weapon. See what happens


New York and Chicago were all in with respect to their sanctuary status — until they were hit with the challenge of actually providing sanctuary. In other words, typical liberal hypocrisy.

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Re: Gun Safety moves forward

Post by TC Talks » Tue Jun 14, 2022 9:30 am

Bryce wrote:
Tue Jun 14, 2022 9:25 am
MotorCityRadioFreak wrote:
Mon Jun 13, 2022 9:49 pm
We're talking AR-15s and other similar automatic weapons.
Automatic weapons are very well regulated and damn near impossible for the average citizen to purchase. Walk into your local gun store and ask them to purchase an automatic weapon. See what happens
It didn't seem to be an issue in Texas, but nice trying to paint a different picture.


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Re: Gun Safety moves forward

Post by Bryce » Tue Jun 14, 2022 9:41 am

TC Talks wrote:
Tue Jun 14, 2022 9:30 am

It didn't seem to be an issue in Texas, but nice trying to paint a different picture.
The individual in the Texas shooting did not have an automatic weapon.


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Re: Gun Safety moves forward

Post by TC Talks » Tue Jun 14, 2022 9:47 am

Bryce wrote:
Tue Jun 14, 2022 9:41 am
TC Talks wrote:
Tue Jun 14, 2022 9:30 am

It didn't seem to be an issue in Texas, but nice trying to paint a different picture.
The individual in the Texas shooting did not have an automatic weapon.
Uvalde elementary school shooting
Where AR-15-style rifles fit in America's tragic history of mass shootings
May 26, 202211:12 AM ET

The weapon used to carry out the mass shooting in Uvalde on Tuesday is one all too familiar to Americans and lawmakers who have witnessed mass shootings occur over the past decade.

The Uvalde gunman used an AR-15-style rifle, a popular range of semiautomatic weapons that was purchased from a sporting goods store, to carry out the attack, Texas Gov. Greg Abbott and law enforcement officials said Wednesday.

While the gun control debate amplifies, the overwhelming emotion in Uvalde is grief
UVALDE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL SHOOTING
While the gun control debate amplifies, the overwhelming emotion in Uvalde is grief
This weapon is an AR-15 type called a DDM4 Rifle, which is manufactured by Daniel Defense, The Associated Press reported. The weapon reportedly retails from $400 to $2,000, the AP added.

While officials said the shooter, Salvador Ramos, purchased the gun, ammunition, and another weapon legally, the AR-15 and other guns like it have lingered on the minds of lawmakers for some time in terms of their legality.

In 1994, President Bill Clinton signed an assault-weapons ban, which banned the AR-15 and other similar semiautomatic rifles.

After its ban, mass shootings were down in the decade that followed, in comparison to the decade before (1984-94) and the one after (2004-14), NPR reported in 2018.


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Re: Gun Safety moves forward

Post by Bryce » Tue Jun 14, 2022 9:55 am

Bryce wrote:
Tue Jun 14, 2022 9:41 am

The individual in the Texas shooting did not have an automatic weapon.
TC Talks wrote:
Tue Jun 14, 2022 9:47 am


The Uvalde gunman used an AR-15-style rifle, a popular range of semiautomatic weapons

That's the problem with letting firearm ignorant people weigh in on gun laws. There is a BIG difference between an automatic and semiautomatic. One is used by the military, the other by hunters and sportsman and in some cases mentally ill lunatics that smoke a lot of marihuana.


New York and Chicago were all in with respect to their sanctuary status — until they were hit with the challenge of actually providing sanctuary. In other words, typical liberal hypocrisy.

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Re: Gun Safety moves forward

Post by TC Talks » Tue Jun 14, 2022 7:35 pm

Bryce wrote:
Tue Jun 14, 2022 9:55 am
Bryce wrote:
Tue Jun 14, 2022 9:41 am

The individual in the Texas shooting did not have an automatic weapon.
TC Talks wrote:
Tue Jun 14, 2022 9:47 am


The Uvalde gunman used an AR-15-style rifle, a popular range of semiautomatic weapons

That's the problem with letting firearm ignorant people weigh in on gun laws. There is a BIG difference between an automatic and semiautomatic. One is used by the military, the other by hunters and sportsman and in some cases mentally ill lunatics that smoke a lot of marihuana.
I think Americans are focused on how effective any of these weapon can be at killing children. We tend to not be concerned with the granular details outside the body count.


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Re: Gun Safety moves forward

Post by Bryce » Tue Jun 14, 2022 9:24 pm

TC Talks wrote:
Tue Jun 14, 2022 7:35 pm
how effective any of these weapon can be at killing children.
No weapon has ever killed a child.


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Re: Gun Safety moves forward

Post by MotorCityRadioFreak » Tue Jun 14, 2022 9:47 pm

The fact that some would be willing to excuse the overthrow of the vote of the people is inexcusable. They are traitors to this country.


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Re: Gun Safety moves forward

Post by TC Talks » Wed Jun 15, 2022 8:12 pm

MotorCityRadioFreak wrote:
Tue Jun 14, 2022 9:47 pm
The fact that some would be willing to excuse the overthrow of the vote of the people is inexcusable. They are traitors to this country.
Shhhh, you'll hurt Bryce's feelings.


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Re: Gun Safety moves forward

Post by Deleted User 15783 » Wed Jun 15, 2022 8:45 pm

MotorCityRadioFreak wrote:
Tue Jun 14, 2022 9:47 pm
The fact that some would be willing to excuse the overthrow of the vote of the people is inexcusable. They are traitors to this country.
Well that may be true.
However I believe the topic of this particular thread that TC Talk was so gracious to start concerns enhanced background checks and red flag laws. I'm confident there is already a thread or two here on Buzzboard discussing the January 6th shenanigans.

Do you feel this thread should be steered away from what all have been discussing for 3 pages?



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