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Covid DNA sequence of 19 consecutive base pairs found in a 2016 Moderna patent

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Covid DNA sequence of 19 consecutive base pairs found in a 2016 Moderna patent

Post by bmw » Wed Feb 23, 2022 11:33 pm

This is mildly fascinating.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... atent.html
Fresh suspicion that Covid may have been tinkered with in a lab emerged today after scientists found genetic material owned by Moderna in the virus's spike protein. They identified a tiny snippet of code that is identical to part of a gene patented by the vaccine maker three years before the pandemic.

It was discovered in SARS-CoV-2's unique furin cleavage site, the part that makes it so good at infecting people and separates it from other coronaviruses...The international team of researchers suggest the virus may have mutated to have a furin cleavage site during experiments on human cells in a lab. They claim there is a one-in-three-trillion chance Moderna's sequence randomly appeared through natural evolution. ...
Analysis of the original Covid genome found the virus shares a sequence of 19 specific letters with a genetic section owned by Moderna, which has a total of 3,300 nucleotides.
Now, I have no idea how they came up with that 3 trillion number. By my math, the odds would be 1 in 4 to the 19th power, or about 1 in 275 billion, and then divided by the 30,000 letters in the DNA sequence of Covid, and then divide that by the 3300 nucleotides in the patent, or ultimately, about 1 in 2800.

Hardly 1 in 3 trillion, but that's still a bit bigger than just a random "quirk" IMO. 1 in 2800 could be pure chance, but the fact that it is a specific part of the virus that impacts its transmissibility makes it interesting.



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Re: Covid DNA sequence of 19 consecutive base pairs found in a 2016 Moderna patent

Post by paul8539 » Thu Feb 24, 2022 12:17 am

That means that the Chinese stole the information in the patent and made their own. Just like they have been copying everything else and putting their name on it. Examples: Chery vs. Chevy; Dunacell and Duraking vs. Duracell. Probably many others I can't name.

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Re: Covid DNA sequence of 19 consecutive base pairs found in a 2016 Moderna patent

Post by Rate This » Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:24 am

paul8539 wrote:
Thu Feb 24, 2022 12:17 am
That means that the Chinese stole the information in the patent and made their own. Just like they have been copying everything else and putting their name on it. Examples: Chery vs. Chevy; Dunacell and Duraking vs. Duracell. Probably many others I can't name.
If anyone deserves to be blown into the Stone-age forget Russia… it’s the damn Chinese. 5 nukes or so on their 5 largest cities combined with bombs on their known nuclear weapons facilities will cripple them. They could use to be humbled.

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Re: Covid DNA sequence of 19 consecutive base pairs found in a 2016 Moderna patent

Post by MotorCityRadioFreak » Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:27 am

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Post by bmw » Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:52 am

In other Covid news, total reported cases are down 91% nationally and 93% in Michigan compared to the peak 1 month ago today.

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Post by Rate This » Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:26 am

bmw wrote:
Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:52 am
In other Covid news, total reported cases are down 91% nationally and 93% in Michigan compared to the peak 1 month ago today.
Great news. Hopefully this means it’s ending.

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Re: Covid DNA sequence of 19 consecutive base pairs found in a 2016 Moderna patent

Post by MotorCityRadioFreak » Sat Feb 26, 2022 9:24 am

Rate This wrote:
Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:26 am
bmw wrote:
Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:52 am
In other Covid news, total reported cases are down 91% nationally and 93% in Michigan compared to the peak 1 month ago today.
Great news. Hopefully this means it’s ending.
It's only taking a break like last June.
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Re: Covid DNA sequence of 19 consecutive base pairs found in a 2016 Moderna patent

Post by Rate This » Sat Feb 26, 2022 11:35 am

MotorCityRadioFreak wrote:
Sat Feb 26, 2022 9:24 am
Rate This wrote:
Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:26 am
bmw wrote:
Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:52 am
In other Covid news, total reported cases are down 91% nationally and 93% in Michigan compared to the peak 1 month ago today.
Great news. Hopefully this means it’s ending.
It's only taking a break like last June.
I doubt it. We are at a breaking point as a society. We cannot do more mandates and keep going like this indefinitely… it’s simply not sustainable.

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Re: Covid DNA sequence of 19 consecutive base pairs found in a 2016 Moderna patent

Post by MotorCityRadioFreak » Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:17 pm

Rate This wrote:
Sat Feb 26, 2022 11:35 am
MotorCityRadioFreak wrote:
Sat Feb 26, 2022 9:24 am
Rate This wrote:
Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:26 am
bmw wrote:
Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:52 am
In other Covid news, total reported cases are down 91% nationally and 93% in Michigan compared to the peak 1 month ago today.
Great news. Hopefully this means it’s ending.
It's only taking a break like last June.
I doubt it. We are at a breaking point as a society. We cannot do more mandates and keep going like this indefinitely… it’s simply not sustainable.
COVID doesn't care about your feelings. Sorry to say.
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Re: Covid DNA sequence of 19 consecutive base pairs found in a 2016 Moderna patent

Post by bmw » Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:21 pm

Omicron proved to be anywhere from 3-6x less severe than Delta depending on the metric and the location. Its hospitalization and mortality rate proved to be closer in actual numbers to the flu than to past Covid variants. The only thing at this point really making it any worse than the flu is that it is far more contagious, so TOTAL deaths and hospitalizations are higher.

So you combine that with a decent level of accumulated immunity around the world, and I don't think we will see (in the coming years) anything even approaching what Delta and pre-Delta did to society.

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Re: Covid DNA sequence of 19 consecutive base pairs found in a 2016 Moderna patent

Post by Matt » Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:50 pm

MotorCityRadioFreak wrote:
Sat Feb 26, 2022 9:24 am
Rate This wrote:
Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:26 am
bmw wrote:
Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:52 am
In other Covid news, total reported cases are down 91% nationally and 93% in Michigan compared to the peak 1 month ago today.
Great news. Hopefully this means it’s ending.
It's only taking a break like last June.
Keep spreading fear. The pandemic is over. Your boy Biden is set to announce the end of the national emergency as 4/1 on Tuesday.
Voting for Trump is dumber than playing Russian Roulette with fully loaded chambers.

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Re: Covid DNA sequence of 19 consecutive base pairs found in a 2016 Moderna patent

Post by Chrocket87 » Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:58 pm

Matt wrote:
Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:50 pm
MotorCityRadioFreak wrote:
Sat Feb 26, 2022 9:24 am
Rate This wrote:
Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:26 am
bmw wrote:
Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:52 am
In other Covid news, total reported cases are down 91% nationally and 93% in Michigan compared to the peak 1 month ago today.
Great news. Hopefully this means it’s ending.
It's only taking a break like last June.
Keep spreading fear. The pandemic is over. Your boy Biden is set to announce the end of the national emergency as 4/1 on Tuesday.
If the national emergency ends, does that mean I won’t have to show negative tests upon returning from international travel? If so, great news!

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Re: Covid DNA sequence of 19 consecutive base pairs found in a 2016 Moderna patent

Post by km1125 » Sat Feb 26, 2022 3:08 pm

Still wondering if we've really learned ANYTHING in how to treat COVID, and if those results show up anywhere in the CFR stats. Other than the very first few months, I don't know that it can be shown.

However, the general COVID stuff is branching far from the OP issue. Was there something in the Moderna patent that really should be concerning us?? Think there will be any investigation into Moderna's patented gene?

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Re: Covid DNA sequence of 19 consecutive base pairs found in a 2016 Moderna patent

Post by MotorCityRadioFreak » Sat Feb 26, 2022 3:19 pm

Matt wrote:
Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:50 pm
MotorCityRadioFreak wrote:
Sat Feb 26, 2022 9:24 am
Rate This wrote:
Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:26 am
bmw wrote:
Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:52 am
In other Covid news, total reported cases are down 91% nationally and 93% in Michigan compared to the peak 1 month ago today.
Great news. Hopefully this means it’s ending.
It's only taking a break like last June.
Keep spreading fear. The pandemic is over. Your boy Biden is set to announce the end of the national emergency as 4/1 on Tuesday.
You nor anyone else can predict if or when a new variant emerges.
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Re: Covid DNA sequence of 19 consecutive base pairs found in a 2016 Moderna patent

Post by Matt » Sat Feb 26, 2022 3:34 pm

MotorCityRadioFreak wrote:
Sat Feb 26, 2022 3:19 pm
Matt wrote:
Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:50 pm
MotorCityRadioFreak wrote:
Sat Feb 26, 2022 9:24 am
Rate This wrote:
Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:26 am
bmw wrote:
Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:52 am
In other Covid news, total reported cases are down 91% nationally and 93% in Michigan compared to the peak 1 month ago today.
Great news. Hopefully this means it’s ending.
It's only taking a break like last June.
Keep spreading fear. The pandemic is over. Your boy Biden is set to announce the end of the national emergency as 4/1 on Tuesday.
You nor anyone else can predict if or when a new variant emerges.
It's endemic now. Shutdowns didn't accomplish shit.
Voting for Trump is dumber than playing Russian Roulette with fully loaded chambers.

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