Taylor man, 41, declined COVID-19 shot and nearly died

[Matt]

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/ ... 659406002/

Hmmm, sounds familiar:

"Get vaccinated. You know, it's a real disease," he said. "I feel for the people that go through what I went through. It was very tough. I think if I was vaccinated, I wouldn't have been here."

"I hardly ever get sick so I was like, you know, I don't need it," he said of the COVID-19 vaccine. "But, you need it."

[Honeyman]

If he was Swedish, he would have been okay.

[TC Talks]

If he was Swedish, he would have been okay.

Well, in Sweden, his death would have been an unimportant statistic that wouldn't support their current policy TODAY.

[bmw]

You all just keep on mocking me, and keep moving those goal posts. Meanwhile, your vaccine ain't doing shit to actually stop or even marginally slow down the spread of the virus. A lifetime of booster shots every 8 months that take longer than 8 months to administer to an entire population and do nothing to slow down the spread of the pandemic - that is your solution? Oh, that's right, it's all about the hospitalization rates. Rates that you all claimed were anywhere from 100:1 different vs. unvaccinated (TC Talks) to 33:1 (Matt) when in reality the raw data works out to 3.08 to 1 (and falling as efficacy wanes).

Face it. Everything about the Covid vaccine has been an unmitigated disaster, and it becomes increasingly hard to believe that as each day passes and data continues to pour in that you all still stubbornly adhere to this being the answer.

[Matt]

You all just keep on mocking me, and keep moving those goal posts. Meanwhile, your vaccine ain't doing shit to actually stop or even marginally slow down the spread of the virus. A lifetime of booster shots every 8 months that take longer than 8 months to administer to an entire population and do nothing to slow down the spread of the pandemic - that is your solution? Oh, that's right, it's all about the hospitalization rates. Rates that you all claimed were anywhere from 100:1 different vs. unvaccinated (TC Talks) to 33:1 (Matt) when in reality the raw data works out to 3.08 to 1 (and falling as efficacy wanes).

Face it. Everything about the Covid vaccine has been an unmitigated disaster, and it becomes increasingly hard to believe that as each day passes and data continues to pour in that you all still stubbornly adhere to this being the answer.

I'm not mocking you. I sincerely hope you come around on this issue. Your last sentence here betrays your previous statement on not being an anti-vaxxer.

[bmw]

The vaccine is NOT the answer. That has been my position for as long as I can remember. I had high hopes early on, but those quickly fizzled once data started coming in. The vaccines aren't working nearly as well as the government promised us they would, and at this point in time, there is no correlation whatsoever between daily case numbers and vaccination rates. Literally none. You couldn't make that line-of-best-fit more horizontal if you tried. The mandates have been a disaster, both from companies and from government, and they're hurting the economy and livelihoods of millions of Americans. Politicians have moved the goal posts more times than I can count on both hands. The only thing you have left to point to is hospitalization rates, but even those are nowhere near as low in vaccinated people as the media was screaming just two months ago. That 30-to-1 ratio is more like 3-to-1 and falling.

When the pandemic DOES ease up, it won't be because of the vaccine; rather, it will be because the vast majority of the population has had Covid and is thus immune.

I have much higher hopes for the Pfizer pill than I do for any of the vaccines (on a side-note, the Merck pill sounds awfully dangerous to me given how it works by forcing genetic mutations in the virus).

[Deleted User 14896]

bmw, you are right.
The vaccine may not be the answer. You like to talk about having faith in God. So do it. If you want to get the shots, go for it. If you want to forgo the vaccines and depend on God to either keep you healed if he wants, or take you if he wants, go for it.

Reading other posts you have made, I wonder why you get worked up enough to really care enough to post rebuttals on here. Who cares? Live your life. Trust in the Lord. Don't just talk the talk. Walk the walk. Why not spend a moment in prayer asking yourself if it's worth your time here on earth getting into a cyber-argument with a bunch of rectal births on social media. After you log off, take a pensive minute and ask yourself "Well, that's 20 minutes of my life I'll never get back". Did you spend the time the Lord gives you wisely?

[bmw]

Not sure why you have to make this a religious issue. I seldom talk religion on here. I get annoyed when other people unfairly speak negative things about Christians and sometimes respond to that, and I occasionally comment on social issues, but I try to keep religion and politics separate.

And I don't find the vaccine debate to be an issue of "faith" in the way you've described it - that somehow God will decide whether I get sick or not. That is not my view as a Christian. I believe God gave us free will and does not interfere with that free will, so my belief is that you ultimately are responsible for your own actions.

As to why this particular topic gets me riled up - it is because I firmly believe that we're letting Covid do needless damage to our society, and I think that the people who post here are a fairly accurate representative sample of the public at large as far as views on this topic. I don't talk about this anywhere else other than these forums. My only social media presence is facebook and I rarely comment more than maybe once a month on Covid there. Everyone has to have a place to vent. On this particular topic, I choose these forums because they're one of very few places on the internet where uncensored conversation on this topic is allowed to take place.

[Matt]

As to why this particular topic gets me riled up - it is because I firmly believe that we're letting Covid do needless damage to our society,

Then get vaccinated and encourage others to do the same!

[Deleted User 14896]

Good morning.
Time to drop the kids off at the pool while I peruse Buzzboard.

I see the usual "I think I can change other people's minds on social media" postings. Always good for a grin. If I laugh hard enough, I may get to the paperwork quicker.

See ya tomorrow.