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Re: Adam Toledo shooting

Post by Deleted User 14896 » Sun Apr 18, 2021 5:24 pm

km1125 wrote:
Sun Apr 18, 2021 4:01 pm
Depends on the department. MANY do require it and have for a LONG time. I would not be surprised if many places are relaxing those standards, as nobody has been able to fulfill their recruitment goals. They also now allow visible tattoos (which many never would allow) and also past drug activity. What do you think that's going to do to to the future effectiveness of LEO departments?
Maybe it would be a good thing to have officers on the street that came from the street.

Officers that weren't the nerds JoJo Girl is talking about that couldn't relate with others growing up. And now can't relate with the gritty side of life on their job.



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Re: Adam Toledo shooting

Post by MWmetalhead » Sun Apr 18, 2021 5:35 pm

To BMW: You might be jumping to conclusions very prematurely regarding the viability of civil claims against the City of Dallas and/or the Dallas Police Department regarding Amber Guyger's assassination of Botham Jean:

https://dfw.cbslocal.com/2020/12/18/fed ... er-guyger/

https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/speci ... 552dd98810

I'll point out, too, that originally, you did not qualify your original question with "cop on duty." You simply asked if a model citizen was ever killed by a cop.

Here's an example of a man doing nothing wrong being killed by a uniformed Columbus, OH police officer on duty:

https://www.npr.org/2020/12/23/94972830 ... f-encounte

Quotes:
"Police say there is no dashcam footage because officers were responding to a nonemergency call."

""I am also very disturbed about what I don't see next in the body-worn camera footage," Ginther said. "From what we can see, none of the officers initially at the scene provide medical assistance to Mr. Hill. No compression on the wounds to stop the bleeding. No attempts at CPR. Not even a hand on the shoulder and an encouraging word that medics were en route."

Ginther said that Hill was known to the residents of the house where he was shot and an "expected guest."



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Re: Adam Toledo shooting

Post by Lester The Nightfly » Sun Apr 18, 2021 6:30 pm

Mike Oxlong wrote:
Sun Apr 18, 2021 5:24 pm
km1125 wrote:
Sun Apr 18, 2021 4:01 pm
Depends on the department. MANY do require it and have for a LONG time. I would not be surprised if many places are relaxing those standards, as nobody has been able to fulfill their recruitment goals. They also now allow visible tattoos (which many never would allow) and also past drug activity. What do you think that's going to do to to the future effectiveness of LEO departments?
Maybe it would be a good thing to have officers on the street that came from the street.
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Re: Adam Toledo shooting

Post by bmw » Sun Apr 18, 2021 6:34 pm

MWmetalhead wrote:
Sun Apr 18, 2021 5:35 pm
To BMW: You might be jumping to conclusions very prematurely regarding the viability of civil claims against the City of Dallas and/or the Dallas Police Department regarding Amber Guyger's assassination of Botham Jean:

https://dfw.cbslocal.com/2020/12/18/fed ... er-guyger/

https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/speci ... 552dd98810
We'll see. The dismissal was based on failure to state a claim, and the judge subsequently granted leave for them to amend the complaint. I have no doubt the city will plead qualified immunity based on the argument that the cop wasn't acting in her official capacity as an officer. If they do, it could take several years just to resolve the immunity question. I've been through this process personally.



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Re: Adam Toledo shooting

Post by bmw » Sun Apr 18, 2021 6:48 pm

MWmetalhead wrote:
Sun Apr 18, 2021 5:35 pm
Here's an example of a man doing nothing wrong being killed by a uniformed Columbus, OH police officer on duty:

https://www.npr.org/2020/12/23/94972830 ... f-encounte
It took me a bit, but I found the badge cam video. Just from what I saw that was inconclusive. The eventual victim was walking directly towards the officer holding up a smart phone in one hand, and at least in the shaky footage, I can not see where his other hand is. I wish there was audio here. The officer plead not guilty to murder. I am unable to find any statements as to what his actual defense is. At the end of the day I would want more evidence and testimony as to exactly what happened during those few seconds where we have no audio before I make a decision on whether the cop is guilty or not. JUST BASED on what I've been able to find thus far, my prediction is he is acquitted of the murder charge. He may well be convicted of the lesser charges, as I do agree that the lack of rendering aid after the fact was despicable.



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Re: Adam Toledo shooting

Post by Bryce » Sun Apr 18, 2021 10:36 pm

MotorCityRadioFreak wrote:
Sat Apr 17, 2021 3:30 am
The kid never had a gun. Another bad cop, and they wonder why people are pissed off.
Hey? Are you friends with the member MetalUpYourAss1973? Or, do you prefer something a bit more malleable? Just wondering.


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