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George Floyd Police Reform Act

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George Floyd Police Reform Act

Post by TC Talks » Thu Mar 04, 2021 6:47 pm

The house passed a bill similar last year but was killed by the Trump patrol. last night's Bill addresses some of the issues I have raised in this forum. Tracking bad cops, accountability and the removal of qualified immunity should make cops give pause when they do things to kill citizens when there is no threat.

This is what leadership is all about folks.
House lawmakers on Wednesday passed the George Floyd Justice in Policing Act, a reform bill that would ban chokeholds and alter so-called qualified immunity for law enforcement, which would make it easier to pursue claims of police misconduct.

The 220-212 vote, mostly along party lines, came nine months after Floyd, a 46-year-old Black man, was killed by Minneapolis police officers last spring.

The wide-ranging legislation would also ban no-knock warrants in certain cases, mandate data collection on police encounters, prohibit racial and religious profiling and redirect funding to community-based policing programs.

"Never again should an unarmed individual be murdered or brutalized by someone who is supposed to serve and protect them," said Rep. Karen Bass, D-Calif., in a statement. "Never again should the world be subject to witnessing what we saw happen to George Floyd in the streets in Minnesota."


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Re: George Floyd Police Reform Act

Post by Rate This » Thu Mar 04, 2021 7:12 pm

Before any of our conservative pals chime in let’s all realize that they have chances for proposing alternatives and haven’t taken them. Goes along with the lack of a platform or vision beyond a large pile of disjointed grievances.



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Re: George Floyd Police Reform Act

Post by km1125 » Thu Mar 04, 2021 9:09 pm

They should have called it the "Fentanyl Addict Protection Act"

If it passes, I wonder how quickly and what volume of early retirements we'll see in the LEO community. It will be that much harder to hire qualified replacements too.

Good luck with that.



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Re: George Floyd Police Reform Act

Post by Bryce » Thu Mar 04, 2021 9:12 pm

Always love it when a bunch of slack jawed pansies who would never have the balls to put on a badge and battle the street vermin, day in and day out, put their two cents in on what's wrong with law enforcement and how to fix it.


New York and Chicago were all in with respect to their sanctuary status — until they were hit with the challenge of actually providing sanctuary. In other words, typical liberal hypocrisy.

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Re: George Floyd Police Reform Act

Post by TC Talks » Fri Mar 05, 2021 6:20 am

Many of those slack-jawed pansies have served in active warzones. Have you? Or do you just like calling people names.


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Re: George Floyd Police Reform Act

Post by Bryce » Fri Mar 05, 2021 7:18 am

TC Talks wrote:
Fri Mar 05, 2021 6:20 am
Many of those slack-jawed pansies have served in active warzones.
Yeah? Name them.
TC Talks wrote:
Fri Mar 05, 2021 6:20 am

Have you? Or do you just like calling people names.
If you only knew.

Answer this, Why are the same people that are pushing the defund the police movement in cities and towns across the nation, a move that has been shown to dramatically increase crime, increasing the budget of the Capitol Police and extending the Washington occupation by the National Guard?

"Mostly peaceful protests" where cities were ravaged, homes and business burned and citizens killed we allowed to continue unabated and police departments ordered to stand down. Yet a single protest in which not one person was found with a gun and the only person shot was a civilian (unjustifiably in my opinion) by Capitol Police Officer, requires extra funding and a military presence.

Seems like another "Let them eat cake" moment to me.


New York and Chicago were all in with respect to their sanctuary status — until they were hit with the challenge of actually providing sanctuary. In other words, typical liberal hypocrisy.

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Re: George Floyd Police Reform Act

Post by Rate This » Fri Mar 05, 2021 7:47 am

Bryce wrote:
Fri Mar 05, 2021 7:18 am
TC Talks wrote:
Fri Mar 05, 2021 6:20 am
Many of those slack-jawed pansies have served in active warzones.
Yeah? Name them.
TC Talks wrote:
Fri Mar 05, 2021 6:20 am

Have you? Or do you just like calling people names.
If you only knew.

Answer this, Why are the same people that are pushing the defund the police movement in cities and towns across the nation, a move that has been shown to dramatically increase crime, increasing the budget of the Capitol Police and extending the Washington occupation by the National Guard?

"Mostly peaceful protests" where cities were ravaged, homes and business burned and citizens killed we allowed to continue unabated and police departments ordered to stand down. Yet a single protest in which not one person was found with a gun and the only person shot was a civilian (unjustifiably in my opinion) by Capitol Police Officer, requires extra funding and a military presence.

Seems like another "Let them eat cake" moment to me.
If you only knew? I’ll take yes for 10,000.

Several Democrats in the house served in the military. 20 of the 76 to be exact. All of them voted for this.

Defund the police is not what this is. It reforms policing and establishes a process to root out some of the garbage culture that has slowly permeated police departments. It’s trying to correct for the Derek Chauvins of the world with 19 complaints against them and a job still. It would also try to take some of the burden off of officers when it comes to mental health crises.

You might try having a platform next time. Saying NO! only goes so far. Not accepting reality and changing tactics to suit the 21st century will be the end of conservative relevance in about 20 years or so. Every year more Republicans die and there simply are not the replacements coming into the tent. I would recommend correcting for that if you want any of your ideas to become reality. Of course nobody has any idea what ideas the right has because they never mention any.
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Re: George Floyd Police Reform Act

Post by Bryce » Fri Mar 05, 2021 7:57 am

Rate This wrote:
Fri Mar 05, 2021 7:47 am

Several Democrats in the house served in the military. 20 of the 76 to be exact. All of them voted for this.
He said "active warzones." How many of those 20 saw actual hands on combat? Or are they like a certain someone that sits in a idyllic vacation mecca and pontificates on the problems of the people that live in the inner cities?


New York and Chicago were all in with respect to their sanctuary status — until they were hit with the challenge of actually providing sanctuary. In other words, typical liberal hypocrisy.

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Re: George Floyd Police Reform Act

Post by Rate This » Fri Mar 05, 2021 8:18 am

Bryce wrote:
Fri Mar 05, 2021 7:57 am
Rate This wrote:
Fri Mar 05, 2021 7:47 am

Several Democrats in the house served in the military. 20 of the 76 to be exact. All of them voted for this.
He said "active warzones." How many of those 20 saw actual hands on combat? Or are they like a certain someone that sits in a idyllic vacation mecca and pontificates on the problems of the people that live in the inner cities?
That will take further research. But clearly you will go to any length to win the argument even if it means going after members of the military because their service wasn’t up to whatever arbitrary level suits your point.



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Re: George Floyd Police Reform Act

Post by TC Talks » Fri Mar 05, 2021 8:59 am

Here are some comments from Bryce's hero:
“We’re not going to support that loser’s funeral,” and demanded to know why flags were being lowered to half-staff. (Referencing John McCain)

“Why should I go to that cemetery? It’s filled with losers.” He was also worried that the wind would ruin his hair. (Referencing a WW2 cemetery in France)
This also has nothing to do with the brave men and women in congress who passed this bill.


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Re: George Floyd Police Reform Act

Post by Rate This » Fri Mar 05, 2021 9:16 am

9 of the 20 saw active combat... I can bother to list all 20’s credentials if you really want to go to the trouble.



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Re: George Floyd Police Reform Act

Post by TC Talks » Fri Mar 05, 2021 8:00 pm

Bryce? (Crickets)


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Re: George Floyd Police Reform Act

Post by MotorCityRadioFreak » Mon Mar 08, 2021 3:08 am

Qualified immunity is destroying our inner cities due to abusive and over aggressive cops. It causes a backlash.


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Re: George Floyd Police Reform Act

Post by Bryce » Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:54 pm

TC Talks wrote:
Fri Mar 05, 2021 8:00 pm
Bryce? (Crickets)
So 9 people that voted for this saw active combat. I applaud their service. That still doesn't make them experts on methods of policing a particular city.

There is a reason cities have their own police department. THEY are experts on what is needed in THIER particular city. Just as radio has went to shit because they are being run from afar and was sooooo much better with local ownership and talent, police departments can't be ran from Washington.

AND...

If you must know, my "slack jawed pansies" comment wasn't directed at the people that voted, but the individual that extolled it on this board.


New York and Chicago were all in with respect to their sanctuary status — until they were hit with the challenge of actually providing sanctuary. In other words, typical liberal hypocrisy.

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Re: George Floyd Police Reform Act

Post by Rate This » Mon Mar 08, 2021 9:17 pm

Bryce wrote:
Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:54 pm
TC Talks wrote:
Fri Mar 05, 2021 8:00 pm
Bryce? (Crickets)
So 9 people that voted for this saw active combat. I applaud their service. That still doesn't make them experts on methods of policing a particular city.

There is a reason cities have their own police department. THEY are experts on what is needed in THIER particular city. Just as radio has went to shit because they are being run from afar and was sooooo much better with local ownership and talent, police departments can't be ran from Washington.

AND...

If you must know, my "slack jawed pansies" comment wasn't directed at the people that voted, but the individual that extolled it on this board.
It puts a general minimum standard in place. Individual cities are welcome to go above and beyond and suit to their individual needs as long as it doesn’t ignore the minimum requirements.



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