The Election is Over, and it was...

[Mark Elliott]

I've been doing a lot of (agreed, just Googling) research, but what I see over and over it..

This was the biggest turnout of eligible voters in hundreds of years.

By all accounts, there were a lot of "split tickets" across the country, where a voter chose different parties for different offices.

There has been only one successful "voter fraud" prosecution, involving a guy using his dead mother's name to cast an absentee ballot.

Is this election "fraudulent"? That claim only works if you say it is ALL fraudulent, including Senate, House and all other races were bedeviled by illegal votes.

So, I see two choices - accept this election, or throw it all out and start over, of which there is no Constitutional method to do so. So in fact for right now, there is only one choice.

AND, without some sort of Constitutional amendment taking away the power of the state to conduct an election, it will be the same four years from now.

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this election "fraudulent"? That claim only works if you say it is ALL fraudulent, including Senate, House and all other races were bedeviled by illegal votes.

So, I see two choices - accept this election, or throw it all out and start over, of which there is no Constitutional method to do so. So in fact for right now, there is only one choice.

AND, without some sort of Constitutional amendment taking away the power of the state to conduct an election, it will be the same four years from now.

That is your opinion.

Those are facts Bidet.

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Nothing is over until Biden has his hand on the Bible.

[Matt]

Nothing is over until Biden has his hand on the Bible.

Or PODOTUS Kamala...

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Nothing is over until Biden has his hand on the Bible.

Or PODOTUS Kamala...

Beats PODOTUS Pence aka a really lousy George W. Bush clone...

[Matt]

Those are facts

I agree, they are "Dumb Shit" facts from a Sesame Street Toddler.

Bidet, who do you think will be taking the oath of office on 1/20?

[zzand]

I don't see anything standing in the way of Mr. Biden taking office next month. I know there are calls for Martial Law but that is not going to happen. The kraken turned out to be a dud, whatever it was supposed to be turned out to be vapors and the Electoral College did their job and voted the way the voters indicated. Vice President Pence will usher in the Biden administration , as he is supposed to, so unless I am missing something the next chapter in presidential history is about to start. There was no more voter fraud than there ever is and no real proof of the massive fraud talked about so I see no way for Trump to stay in the office.

[Matt]

MUTT/SFB:

Time will tell.

You do understand that it will not be Donald J. Trump, correct?

[zzand]

I don't think he does

[Matt]

I don't think he does

Even after you spelled out the answer for him!

[Mark Elliott]

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this election "fraudulent"? That claim only works if you say it is ALL fraudulent, including Senate, House and all other races were bedeviled by illegal votes.

So, I see two choices - accept this election, or throw it all out and start over, of which there is no Constitutional method to do so. So in fact for right now, there is only one choice.

AND, without some sort of Constitutional amendment taking away the power of the state to conduct an election, it will be the same four years from now.

That is your opinion.

Those are facts

I agree, they are "Dumb Shit" facts from a Sesame Street Toddler.

This is what I both love and hate about this board. No attempt at all by this poster to justify their claims or support their position. Just ad hominem attacks, disgusting memes and emojis. To be correct, I was a Sesame Street toddler. Now more of a Adult Swim mid life crisis'er. Second, I've read the Constitution recently. There is no provision listed anywhere for an election "redo". In fact, there is no constitutional provision to object to electoral votes during the counting process. This is only established by US Code (law) that has never been challenged in court.

Let's face it - if we can't agree on a shared set of "facts" how can we have an informed discussion or a useful disagreement? Please enlighten us, what are the "facts"?

[Matt]

I

this election "fraudulent"? That claim only works if you say it is ALL fraudulent, including Senate, House and all other races were bedeviled by illegal votes.

So, I see two choices - accept this election, or throw it all out and start over, of which there is no Constitutional method to do so. So in fact for right now, there is only one choice.

AND, without some sort of Constitutional amendment taking away the power of the state to conduct an election, it will be the same four years from now.

That is your opinion.

Those are facts

I agree, they are "Dumb Shit" facts from a Sesame Street Toddler.

This is what I both love and hate about this board. No attempt at all by this poster to justify their claims or support their position. Just ad hominem attacks, disgusting memes and emojis. To be correct, I was a Sesame Street toddler. Now more of a Adult Swim mid life crisis'er. Second, I've read the Constitution recently. There is no provision listed anywhere for an election "redo". In fact, there is no constitutional provision to object to electoral votes during the counting process. This is only established by US Code (law) that has never been challenged in court.

Let's face it - if we can't agree on a shared set of "facts" how can we have an informed discussion or a useful disagreement? Please enlighten us, what are the "facts"?

Mark, you'd have a better chance of pissing against a 75 mph wind and NOT getting piss on yourself than eliciting an intelligent response from Bidet. Maybe one of his grandcoworkers will read it to him and help him respond.

[zzand]

As far as the election redo, that's why people are calling for Martial law, saying that at that point a new election could be called for. I don't think it works that way. There is also a call for VP Pence to overturn the Electoral count, again no provision for him to do so. What it comes down to is a mirror of 2016, people spent four years denying Hillary lost, now it will happen on the other side. Best to ignore those folk and move on with life.

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As far as the election redo, that's why people are calling for Martial law, saying that at that point a new election could be called for. I don't think it works that way. There is also a call for VP Pence to overturn the Electoral count, again no provision for him to do so. What it comes down to is a mirror of 2016, people spent four years denying Hillary lost, now it will happen on the other side. Best to ignore those folk and move on with life.

The interesting twist which is possibly ironic is that Biden shut down Democratic objections on the senate floor and counted the electoral votes. But yeah there is no provision to overturn the election or declare a new election. They have us confused with Israel which seems to get a government that way every 5 minutes.

[Turkeytop]

As far as the election redo, that's why people are calling for Martial law, saying that at that point a new election could be called for. I don't think it works that way. There is also a call for VP Pence to overturn the Electoral count, again no provision for him to do so. What it comes down to is a mirror of 2016, people spent four years denying Hillary lost, now it will happen on the other side. Best to ignore those folk and move on with life.

The interesting twist which is possibly ironic is that Biden shut down Democratic objections on the senate floor and counted the electoral votes. But yeah there is no provision to overturn the election or declare a new election. They have us confused with Israel which seems to get a government that way every 5 minutes.

Even if there was such a provision, what grounds would there be for doing it?

In Canada, our government can be defeated in Parliament at any time, and force new elections.

In recent months, our Prime Minister has been trying to manipulate Parliament to force a defeat of his government, because he believes he would win re election.