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Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Breaks Down What the Green New Deal Really Is

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Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Breaks Down What the Green New Deal Really Is

Post by Deleted User 4520 » Sun Nov 29, 2020 10:43 am

Insightful and if people take the time to listen and not take context out of proportion this makes a lot of sense.




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Re: Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Breaks Down What the Green New Deal Really Is

Post by bmw » Sun Nov 29, 2020 10:55 am

I pulled up the text of the Green New Deal. One of the items is:

"(ii) by guaranteeing universal access to clean water;"

So how does that work exactly when you have leftist government officials in Los Angeles threatening to SHUT OFF running water for people holding Thanksgiving gatherings?



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Re: Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Breaks Down What the Green New Deal Really Is

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bmw wrote:
Sun Nov 29, 2020 10:55 am
I pulled up the text of the Green New Deal. One of the items is:

"(ii) by guaranteeing universal access to clean water;"

So how does that work exactly when you have leftist government officials in Los Angeles threatening to SHUT OFF running water for people holding Thanksgiving gatherings?
Did they?


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Re: Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Breaks Down What the Green New Deal Really Is

Post by km1125 » Sun Nov 29, 2020 11:44 am

bmw wrote:
Sun Nov 29, 2020 10:55 am
I pulled up the text of the Green New Deal. One of the items is:

"(ii) by guaranteeing universal access to clean water;"

So how does that work exactly when you have leftist government officials in Los Angeles threatening to SHUT OFF running water for people holding Thanksgiving gatherings?
Pipe the Great Lakes out to LA and that will solve their water shortages.



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Re: Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Breaks Down What the Green New Deal Really Is

Post by Rate This » Sun Nov 29, 2020 12:37 pm

km1125 wrote:
Sun Nov 29, 2020 11:44 am
bmw wrote:
Sun Nov 29, 2020 10:55 am
I pulled up the text of the Green New Deal. One of the items is:

"(ii) by guaranteeing universal access to clean water;"

So how does that work exactly when you have leftist government officials in Los Angeles threatening to SHUT OFF running water for people holding Thanksgiving gatherings?
Pipe the Great Lakes out to LA and that will solve their water shortages.
Jobs jobs jobs.



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Re: Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Breaks Down What the Green New Deal Really Is

Post by fuzzpower » Sun Nov 29, 2020 4:47 pm

The New Green Deal is a disguise for socialism, pure and simple. They have admitted that behind closed doors.

If you want everyone except the Uber elites and government hacks to be poor, this is for you.



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Re: Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Breaks Down What the Green New Deal Really Is

Post by audiophile » Mon Nov 30, 2020 12:59 pm

fuzzpower wrote:
Sun Nov 29, 2020 4:47 pm
The New Green Deal is a disguise for socialism, pure and simple. They have admitted that behind closed doors.

If you want everyone except the Uber elites and government hacks to be poor, this is for you.
Yes.

In February 2019, the center-right American Action Forum, estimated that the plan could cost between $51–$93 trillion over the next decade.[72] They estimate its potential cost at $600,000 per household.[73] The organization estimated the cost for eliminating carbon emissions from the transportation system at $1.3–2.7 trillion; guaranteeing a job to every American $6.8–44.6 trillion; universal health care estimated close to $36 trillion.[74] According to Bloomberg Businessweek, Wall Street is willing to invest significant resources toward GND programs, but not unless Congress commits to moving it forward.[75]

The AFL-CIO, in a letter to Ocasio-Cortez, expressed strong reservations about the GND, saying, "We welcome the call for labor rights and dialogue with labor, but the Green New Deal resolution is far too short on specific solutions that speak to the jobs of our members and the critical sections of our economy."[76] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_New_Deal


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Post by Matt » Mon Nov 30, 2020 7:16 pm

Its really powerful when a guy with an anti-recycling avatar posts climate change propaganda.


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Post by MotorCityRadioFreak » Mon Nov 30, 2020 11:37 pm

Democratic socialism works for Western Europe and does very well in Canada.

Oh, and clean water and clean air is a completely foreign concept to this Trump administration.


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Post by fuzzpower » Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:18 am

MotorCityRadioFreak wrote:
Mon Nov 30, 2020 11:37 pm
Democratic socialism works for Western Europe and does very well in Canada.

Oh, and clean water and clean air is a completely foreign concept to this Trump administration.
Many in Western Europe live in homes the size of shoeboxes. Go to IKEA and they have many examples. Gas is also extremely expensive, so you are forced to abide by a mass transit schedule to travel a decent distance or pay up the nose. You can only ride a bike for so long until your legs get sore, and you need to put your luggage somewhere if it’s an overnight trip.

Canada has long waits for care. Go to any hospital in the Detroit, Buffalo, or other border city areas prior to the border shutdown and count the number of Canadian license plates. Some are healthcare workers because the pay is better, but many are also patients for surgeries. Cost of food is also lower in the US, so those workers also buy their groceries here. To them, it’s worth the border hassles (the workers probably have NEXUS cards). That’s also why Ontario has complained about nursing shortages for years.

Ever been to Toronto? It’s far from clean. Fun city with lots to offer and great people yes, but it is as dirty in places as any US city.

The air and water will not be cleaner, or at least not enough for what is being paid. As I said, and they have admitted, this is just a disguise for socialism. If you want everyone else except the government and movie stars and Bezos’s of the world to be poor and have less freedom, this is the plan for you.



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Post by audiophile » Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:22 am

The US has some the strictest air regulations in the world. Look up EPA Tier II Bin 5 and compare it EU 5.


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Re: Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Breaks Down What the Green New Deal Really Is

Post by Matt » Tue Dec 01, 2020 8:22 am

R Bedell wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 8:11 am
It is laughable that this Bartender/Commie can come up with anything, but a "Black Russian".
Is a Black Russian your drink of choice, Bidet?


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Post by Matt » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:35 am

R Bedell wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 8:24 am
SFB:

Maybe yours.
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Re: Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Breaks Down What the Green New Deal Really Is

Post by Rate This » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:41 am

fuzzpower wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:18 am
MotorCityRadioFreak wrote:
Mon Nov 30, 2020 11:37 pm
Democratic socialism works for Western Europe and does very well in Canada.

Oh, and clean water and clean air is a completely foreign concept to this Trump administration.
Many in Western Europe live in homes the size of shoeboxes. Go to IKEA and they have many examples. Gas is also extremely expensive, so you are forced to abide by a mass transit schedule to travel a decent distance or pay up the nose. You can only ride a bike for so long until your legs get sore, and you need to put your luggage somewhere if it’s an overnight trip.

Canada has long waits for care. Go to any hospital in the Detroit, Buffalo, or other border city areas prior to the border shutdown and count the number of Canadian license plates. Some are healthcare workers because the pay is better, but many are also patients for surgeries. Cost of food is also lower in the US, so those workers also buy their groceries here. To them, it’s worth the border hassles (the workers probably have NEXUS cards). That’s also why Ontario has complained about nursing shortages for years.

Ever been to Toronto? It’s far from clean. Fun city with lots to offer and great people yes, but it is as dirty in places as any US city.

The air and water will not be cleaner, or at least not enough for what is being paid. As I said, and they have admitted, this is just a disguise for socialism. If you want everyone else except the government and movie stars and Bezos’s of the world to be poor and have less freedom, this is the plan for you.
There are a lot of reasons that the homes in Europe are small, the gas is expensive and mass transit is everywhere... regulation is not top of mind.



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