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Only 0.3% Of A Chance Election WASN'T Fraudulent

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Re: Only 0.3% Of A Chance Election WASN'T Fraudulent

Post by TC Shuts Up » Sun Nov 29, 2020 11:28 am

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Sun Nov 29, 2020 7:44 am
I believe they did which also seems "fishy". We were told there were "tons" of folks who had voted for Trump in 2016 but could not do it again, even if they did not vote for Biden. How did he possibly garner even more votes than he got in 2016? Some of his votes should have gone to Biden, and some should have just evaporated.
Volatility in election turnout is not a new thing.

There were a number of polarizing issues that inspired people to vote this election cycle. Trump himself is extremely polarizing.

Also, widespread early voting and mail-in voting made it very easy for people to vote who might not normally vote. Access to the ballot box increased, which is why the number of votes cast increased.

I'm sure the Trump campaign had plenty of data indicating mail-in voting would lead to a higher than normal turnout among Dem and Dem-leaning voters and would make it difficult for the President to win re-election, which is why Trump has been bloviating for months about mail-in voting. It is also why a handful of screwball GOP operatives and scuzzy Trump-friendly attorneys are filing lawsuits to try to disenfranchise the folks who voted by that method.
It's not my theory. But there are scores of other things that are similarly out of whack.
TCSU - you're being brainwashed by whomever posted that bullshit line graph. Funny how you failed to reveal the source. You also have a fundamentally poor understanding of applied statistics for all the reasons BMW already cited.
I probably forgot more statistics than you ever learned. This election has been, or hopefully only attempted to be, stolen. You and your minions will NOT have the consent of the governed. Socialism has failed. Even Sweden, an extremely small country, is backing away from it and what it has brought on in Sweden.

As for bmw, and others here with large portfolios, one can only hope your brokers are correct in telling you they are going to make more money under Biden than Trump, as they have wishywashed you all to their side.


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Re: Only 0.3% Of A Chance Election WASN'T Fraudulent

Post by TC Shuts Up » Sun Nov 29, 2020 11:35 am

Many of you, when you are older, will regret the folly of your youth. If Socialists prevail, you will come to regret it, sooner or later. Why do you think all these people wanted to come to America? It was to escape Socialism and Communism.


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Re: Only 0.3% Of A Chance Election WASN'T Fraudulent

Post by Turkeytop » Sun Nov 29, 2020 11:46 am

MWmetalhead wrote:
Sun Nov 29, 2020 7:44 am
I believe they did which also seems "fishy". We were told there were "tons" of folks who had voted for Trump in 2016 but could not do it again, even if they did not vote for Biden. How did he possibly garner even more votes than he got in 2016? Some of his votes should have gone to Biden, and some should have just evaporated.
Volatility in election turnout is not a new thing.

There were a number of polarizing issues that inspired people to vote this election cycle. Trump himself is extremely polarizing.

Also, widespread early voting and mail-in voting made it very easy for people to vote who might not normally vote. Access to the ballot box increased, which is why the number of votes cast increased.

I'm sure the Trump campaign had plenty of data indicating mail-in voting would lead to a higher than normal turnout among Dem and Dem-leaning voters and would make it difficult for the President to win re-election, which is why Trump has been bloviating for months about mail-in voting. It is also why a handful of screwball GOP operatives and scuzzy Trump-friendly attorneys are filing lawsuits to try to disenfranchise the folks who voted by that method.
It's not my theory. But there are scores of other things that are similarly out of whack.
TCSU - you're being brainwashed by whomever posted that bullshit line graph. Funny how you failed to reveal the source. You also have a fundamentally poor understanding of applied statistics for all the reasons BMW already cited.

Even if the chart is 100% accurate and from a reliable source, how can it lead one to any kind of conclusion with respect to slection fraud? What am I missing?


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Re: Only 0.3% Of A Chance Election WASN'T Fraudulent

Post by MWmetalhead » Sun Nov 29, 2020 12:29 pm

This election has been, or hopefully only attempted to be, stolen.
Correct - Trump's minions are attempting to steal the election from the winner, Joe Biden.

I'll be the first to say that I don't like many of Biden's policy positions. That has nothing to do with whether he won or lost the election.

Some of the Trumpies are whiny, poor losers - just like Hillary and her ardent supporters four years ago.


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Post by Rate This » Sun Nov 29, 2020 12:36 pm

MWmetalhead wrote:
Sun Nov 29, 2020 12:29 pm
This election has been, or hopefully only attempted to be, stolen.
Correct - Trump's minions are attempting to steal the election from the winner, Joe Biden.

I'll be the first to say that I don't like many of Biden's policy positions. That has nothing to do with whether he won or lost the election.

Some of the Trumpies are whiny, poor losers - just like Hillary and her ardent supporters four years ago.
But she did concede that night. Called Trump and everything. He hasn’t even done that yet so the two really aren’t that similar.



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Post by bmw » Sun Nov 29, 2020 12:42 pm

TC Shuts Up wrote:
Sun Nov 29, 2020 11:28 am
I probably forgot more statistics than you ever learned. This election has been, or hopefully only attempted to be, stolen. You and your minions will NOT have the consent of the governed. Socialism has failed. Even Sweden, an extremely small country, is backing away from it and what it has brought on in Sweden.
Democracy as Socialism are not opposites of each other as you seem to be implying. The opposite of Democracy is Dictatorship. The opposite of socialism is capitalism. For example, people in a Democratic society can still choose socialism at the ballot box. Likewise, a Dictator could theoretically implement capitalism. In this election cycle, the people chose to go more in the direction of socialism. Why should the side that lost not consent to the final outcome? Crying fraud without hard evidence is the equivalent of throwing a temper tantrum.
As for bmw, and others here with large portfolios, one can only hope your brokers are correct in telling you they are going to make more money under Biden than Trump, as they have wishywashed you all to their side.
:lol I only WISH I had a large portfolio. I assure you I make less than the median income in this state. Also, you apparently haven't read any of my posts in here in the past 5 years. I've mostly been an unapologetic Trump supporter. I don't like that Biden won. But it is what it is and it is time for us as a country to move on and for Republicans to focus much more important matters, such as the 2 Senate seats in Georgia coming up in January.



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Post by bmw » Sun Nov 29, 2020 12:49 pm

Rate This wrote:
Sun Nov 29, 2020 12:36 pm
But she did concede that night. Called Trump and everything. He hasn’t even done that yet so the two really aren’t that similar.
She did concede, but that doesn't change the fact that she was a sore loser, just like Trump is being right now (she wrote a book about it where she blames James Comey for her loss). As to her supporters, many of them genuinely believed that Trump won because of illegal Russia collusion.



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Post by Rate This » Sun Nov 29, 2020 1:07 pm

bmw wrote:
Sun Nov 29, 2020 12:49 pm
Rate This wrote:
Sun Nov 29, 2020 12:36 pm
But she did concede that night. Called Trump and everything. He hasn’t even done that yet so the two really aren’t that similar.
She did concede, but that doesn't change the fact that she was a sore loser, just like Trump is being right now (she wrote a book about it where she blames James Comey for her loss). As to her supporters, many of them genuinely believed that Trump won because of illegal Russia collusion.
This is true. All I’m saying is that nobody stopped the transition for weeks and refused to accept or acknowledge the win. Being pissed off that you lost is a little different than actually preventing the show to go on.



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Post by km1125 » Sun Nov 29, 2020 1:11 pm

Turkeytop wrote:
Sun Nov 29, 2020 11:46 am
Even if the chart is 100% accurate and from a reliable source, how can it lead one to any kind of conclusion with respect to slection fraud? What am I missing?
It's not proof, it's one (more) indicator.

If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck....

The challenge is finding out exactly when, where, and how.



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Re: Only 0.3% Of A Chance Election WASN'T Fraudulent

Post by Rate This » Sun Nov 29, 2020 1:17 pm

km1125 wrote:
Sun Nov 29, 2020 1:11 pm
Turkeytop wrote:
Sun Nov 29, 2020 11:46 am
Even if the chart is 100% accurate and from a reliable source, how can it lead one to any kind of conclusion with respect to slection fraud? What am I missing?
It's not proof, it's one (more) indicator.

If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck....

The challenge is finding out exactly when, where, and how.
Except it walks and talks nothing like a duck.



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Re: Only 0.3% Of A Chance Election WASN'T Fraudulent

Post by Turkeytop » Sun Nov 29, 2020 1:29 pm

km1125 wrote:
Sun Nov 29, 2020 1:11 pm
Turkeytop wrote:
Sun Nov 29, 2020 11:46 am
Even if the chart is 100% accurate and from a reliable source, how can it lead one to any kind of conclusion with respect to slection fraud? What am I missing?
It's not proof, it's one (more) indicator.

If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck....

The challenge is finding out exactly when, where, and how.
I have to plead ignorance on this statistical stuff. How is it an indicator? Help me out.


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Post by bmw » Sun Nov 29, 2020 2:02 pm

Turkeytop wrote:
Sun Nov 29, 2020 1:29 pm
km1125 wrote:
Sun Nov 29, 2020 1:11 pm
Turkeytop wrote:
Sun Nov 29, 2020 11:46 am
Even if the chart is 100% accurate and from a reliable source, how can it lead one to any kind of conclusion with respect to slection fraud? What am I missing?
It's not proof, it's one (more) indicator.

If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck....

The challenge is finding out exactly when, where, and how.
I have to plead ignorance on this statistical stuff. How is it an indicator? Help me out.
It isn't. At most, it is reason to further investigate anomalies at a county or city level, but the fact that we had record high turnout nationally in a year with the most divisive president in a hundred years and the biggest pandemic in a hundred years is not at all surprising.

Moreover, you wouldn't hear conservatives complaining about high turnout if Trump had ultimately prevailed. If the tables were turned, and instead, if the Biden people were doing what Trump is now, conservatives would be having multiple cows saying Biden and his cronies are trying to steal the election.

This is so partisan that I mostly tune it out.



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Post by km1125 » Sun Nov 29, 2020 3:10 pm

bmw wrote:
Sun Nov 29, 2020 2:02 pm
It isn't. At most, it is reason to further investigate anomalies at a county or city level, but the fact that we had record high turnout nationally in a year with the most divisive president in a hundred years and the biggest pandemic in a hundred years is not at all surprising.

Moreover, you wouldn't hear conservatives complaining about high turnout if Trump had ultimately prevailed. If the tables were turned, and instead, if the Biden people were doing what Trump is now, conservatives would be having multiple cows saying Biden and his cronies are trying to steal the election.

This is so partisan that I mostly tune it out.
Thanks for confirming that. Exactly what I said.

The large national turnout wouldn't be an issue except that TRUMP also had record numbers. If what had happened - as we were told for months - that many of his former supporters were jumping ship and either voting for Biden or not voting for him at all (not voting for President) and his numbers dropped, then It would make sense. What happened looks fishy, at best.



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Post by TC Talks » Sun Nov 29, 2020 3:25 pm

Folks, for the 8th time, I rigged the election...

The more Trump protests, the wider Biden's margin gets...

https://www.chicagotribune.com/election ... story.html


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Post by Turkeytop » Sun Nov 29, 2020 3:39 pm

km1125 wrote:
Sun Nov 29, 2020 3:10 pm

The large national turnout wouldn't be an issue except that TRUMP also had record numbers. If what had happened - as we were told for months - that many of his former supporters were jumping ship and either voting for Biden or not voting for him at all (not voting for President) and his numbers dropped, then It would make sense. What happened looks fishy, at best.

So, record participation in a democratic election looks fishy?

Looks like a successful democracy to me.


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