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Trump and Melania Test Positive for COVID

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Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive for COVID

Post by Turkeytop » Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:23 pm

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During the middle ages they celebrated the end of the plague with wine and orgies. Does anyone know if there is anything planned when this one ends?

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Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive for COVID

Post by Matt » Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:25 pm

Honeyman wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 12:14 pm
Matt wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:53 am
Rate This wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:37 am
Kayliegh McEnany has tested positive for the virus.
She is the best looking member of the administration. Word has it, you were more of a Sarah Huckabee Sanders guy.
No way....Hope Hicks is fine. A little too much makeup for my liking, but hot as hell.
No one on here is kicking Kayleigh or Hope out of bed, not even Rate "Gone Piggin'" This.



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Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive for COVID

Post by Matt » Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:25 pm

Rate This wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 6:21 pm
km1125 wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 5:00 pm
If you removed all the deaths caused in the early months by horrible policies (like putting infected folks back in elder-care facilities).... what would the real fatality rate be?

The medical community got caught a bit off guard not knowing how to treat this and relied too much on mechanical ventilators (which proved to be counterproductive). If you ignored those original numbers, what is the current CFR? Would it be closer to 0.8% or less?
It’s about hospital capacities not deaths for the 10,000th time.
We ling ago "flattened the curve."



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Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive for COVID

Post by Rate This » Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:42 pm

Matt wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:25 pm
Rate This wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 6:21 pm
km1125 wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 5:00 pm
If you removed all the deaths caused in the early months by horrible policies (like putting infected folks back in elder-care facilities).... what would the real fatality rate be?

The medical community got caught a bit off guard not knowing how to treat this and relied too much on mechanical ventilators (which proved to be counterproductive). If you ignored those original numbers, what is the current CFR? Would it be closer to 0.8% or less?
It’s about hospital capacities not deaths for the 10,000th time.
We ling ago "flattened the curve."
You have to keep it flattened until there’s a vaccine. Places that are seeing flare ups like Wisconsin especially northwest Wisconsin are starting to have issues with it. That’s been a consistent thing no matter where it’s happened. ICU’s were overrun in June in Florida and Texas for example. At one point 45 ICU’s in Florida had run out of beds. That’s why you leave the curve flattened.

You people never learn.
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Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive for COVID

Post by MotorCityRadioFreak » Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:45 pm

You flattened the curve for two seasons, and we likely have two more to go at least. We're in the bottom of the 5th inning, and COVID has still killed 200K+.


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Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive for COVID

Post by km1125 » Tue Oct 06, 2020 12:43 pm

Rate This wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 6:21 pm
km1125 wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 5:00 pm
If you removed all the deaths caused in the early months by horrible policies (like putting infected folks back in elder-care facilities).... what would the real fatality rate be?

The medical community got caught a bit off guard not knowing how to treat this and relied too much on mechanical ventilators (which proved to be counterproductive). If you ignored those original numbers, what is the current CFR? Would it be closer to 0.8% or less?
It’s about hospital capacities not deaths for the 10,000th time.
And how many of those temporary hospital facilities we built were never at more than 1% capacity, if they had ANY people in there?? SO MANY people didn't have to die if they weren't turned away from medical care and told to fend for themselves at home, only to return to the hospital when they couldn't breath and needed ICU treatment. Much of that could have been avoided if we had taken advantage of all those temporary facilities.



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Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive for COVID

Post by Rate This » Tue Oct 06, 2020 2:46 pm

km1125 wrote:
Tue Oct 06, 2020 12:43 pm
Rate This wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 6:21 pm
km1125 wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 5:00 pm
If you removed all the deaths caused in the early months by horrible policies (like putting infected folks back in elder-care facilities).... what would the real fatality rate be?

The medical community got caught a bit off guard not knowing how to treat this and relied too much on mechanical ventilators (which proved to be counterproductive). If you ignored those original numbers, what is the current CFR? Would it be closer to 0.8% or less?
It’s about hospital capacities not deaths for the 10,000th time.
And how many of those temporary hospital facilities we built were never at more than 1% capacity, if they had ANY people in there?? SO MANY people didn't have to die if they weren't turned away from medical care and told to fend for themselves at home, only to return to the hospital when they couldn't breath and needed ICU treatment. Much of that could have been avoided if we had taken advantage of all those temporary facilities.
When they were turned away they weren’t gasping for air. The temporary hospitals ended up not being needed because we flattened the curve. You have to keep it flattened or we go right back where we were.



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Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive for COVID

Post by km1125 » Tue Oct 06, 2020 3:56 pm

Rate This wrote:
Tue Oct 06, 2020 2:46 pm
km1125 wrote:
Tue Oct 06, 2020 12:43 pm
Rate This wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 6:21 pm
km1125 wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 5:00 pm
If you removed all the deaths caused in the early months by horrible policies (like putting infected folks back in elder-care facilities).... what would the real fatality rate be?

The medical community got caught a bit off guard not knowing how to treat this and relied too much on mechanical ventilators (which proved to be counterproductive). If you ignored those original numbers, what is the current CFR? Would it be closer to 0.8% or less?
It’s about hospital capacities not deaths for the 10,000th time.
And how many of those temporary hospital facilities we built were never at more than 1% capacity, if they had ANY people in there?? SO MANY people didn't have to die if they weren't turned away from medical care and told to fend for themselves at home, only to return to the hospital when they couldn't breath and needed ICU treatment. Much of that could have been avoided if we had taken advantage of all those temporary facilities.
When they were turned away they weren’t gasping for air. The temporary hospitals ended up not being needed because we flattened the curve. You have to keep it flattened or we go right back where we were.
Ah, but folks were still dying in big numbers back then. So what's really important.. the number sick or the number dying?? Many could have been saved with a modicum of care if we used those facilities.



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Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive for COVID

Post by Rate This » Tue Oct 06, 2020 4:32 pm

km1125 wrote:
Tue Oct 06, 2020 3:56 pm
Rate This wrote:
Tue Oct 06, 2020 2:46 pm
km1125 wrote:
Tue Oct 06, 2020 12:43 pm
Rate This wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 6:21 pm
km1125 wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 5:00 pm
If you removed all the deaths caused in the early months by horrible policies (like putting infected folks back in elder-care facilities).... what would the real fatality rate be?

The medical community got caught a bit off guard not knowing how to treat this and relied too much on mechanical ventilators (which proved to be counterproductive). If you ignored those original numbers, what is the current CFR? Would it be closer to 0.8% or less?
It’s about hospital capacities not deaths for the 10,000th time.
And how many of those temporary hospital facilities we built were never at more than 1% capacity, if they had ANY people in there?? SO MANY people didn't have to die if they weren't turned away from medical care and told to fend for themselves at home, only to return to the hospital when they couldn't breath and needed ICU treatment. Much of that could have been avoided if we had taken advantage of all those temporary facilities.
When they were turned away they weren’t gasping for air. The temporary hospitals ended up not being needed because we flattened the curve. You have to keep it flattened or we go right back where we were.
Ah, but folks were still dying in big numbers back then. So what's really important.. the number sick or the number dying?? Many could have been saved with a modicum of care if we used those facilities.
If you can’t get the number that are sick under control then you have nothing. Since there is no cure for it the only angle is prevention. Currently one party is clearly for that and the other parties new motto is “What Virus?”.



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Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive for COVID

Post by Rate This » Tue Oct 06, 2020 5:58 pm

R Bedell wrote:
Tue Oct 06, 2020 5:56 pm
Currently one party is clearly for that and the other parties new motto is “What Virus?”.
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Thanks for the confirmation.



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Re: Trump and Melania Test Positive for COVID

Post by Rate This » Tue Oct 06, 2020 6:25 pm

R Bedell wrote:
Tue Oct 06, 2020 6:01 pm
Thanks for the confirmation.
:lol :lol :lol
Laugh it up now... you will be crushed in short order.



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