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Supreme Court Rules Against Trump On DACA

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Supreme Court Rules Against Trump On DACA

Post by Rate This » Thu Jun 18, 2020 10:18 am

Apparently DHS didn’t follow the proper procedures and consider the right things in trying to end it so Trumps challenge has been quashed. Quite stunning actually. 5-4 ruling with Roberts siding with the liberals.
https://apnews.com/4901a69e2fb198705ab4f5370b28810a



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Re: Supreme Court Rules Against Trump On DACA

Post by Deleted User 24 » Thu Jun 18, 2020 11:05 am

SCOTUS gets it right twice in one week. Waiting for the usual butthurt conservatives in 3 ... 2 ... 1 ...

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Re: Supreme Court Rules Against Trump On DACA

Post by Matt » Thu Jun 18, 2020 12:18 pm

No argument here. I agree with both rulings.
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Re: Supreme Court Rules Against Trump On DACA

Post by Deleted User 13307 » Thu Jun 18, 2020 2:33 pm

I think the only one butthurt is Trump. Proud of the SCOTUS these past few days!

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Re: Supreme Court Rules Against Trump On DACA

Post by bmw » Thu Jun 18, 2020 2:43 pm

Just curious - when is the last time that a liberal justice cast the deciding vote for the conservatives in a controversial case?

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Re: Supreme Court Rules Against Trump On DACA

Post by Bryce » Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:06 pm

Vic Doucette wrote:
Thu Jun 18, 2020 11:05 am
SCOTUS gets it right twice in one week. Waiting for the usual butthurt conservatives in 3 ... 2 ... 1 ...
I guess I get to be the first one....

How exactly does Roberts justify the ruling that one Presidents executive order is valid, but the executive order by another President rescinding it isn't? Sorry, that doesn't pass constitutional muster to me.
New York and Chicago were all in with respect to their sanctuary status — until they were hit with the challenge of actually providing sanctuary. In other words, typical liberal hypocrisy.

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Re: Supreme Court Rules Against Trump On DACA

Post by Rate This » Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:13 pm

Bryce wrote:
Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:06 pm
Vic Doucette wrote:
Thu Jun 18, 2020 11:05 am
SCOTUS gets it right twice in one week. Waiting for the usual butthurt conservatives in 3 ... 2 ... 1 ...
I guess I get to be the first one....

How exactly does Roberts justify the ruling that one Presidents executive order is valid, but the executive order by another President rescinding it isn't? Sorry, that doesn't pass constitutional muster to me.
The issue was procedural... Trumps administration screwed up how they went about it. The court did not rule on the merits of the move.

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Re: Supreme Court Rules Against Trump On DACA

Post by Matt » Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:32 pm

Bryce wrote:
Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:06 pm
Vic Doucette wrote:
Thu Jun 18, 2020 11:05 am
SCOTUS gets it right twice in one week. Waiting for the usual butthurt conservatives in 3 ... 2 ... 1 ...
I guess I get to be the first one....

How exactly does Roberts justify the ruling that one Presidents executive order is valid, but the executive order by another President rescinding it isn't? Sorry, that doesn't pass constitutional muster to me.
Would you have preferred an activist ruling?
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Re: Supreme Court Rules Against Trump On DACA

Post by Bryce » Thu Jun 18, 2020 9:14 pm

Matt wrote:
Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:32 pm
Bryce wrote:
Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:06 pm
Vic Doucette wrote:
Thu Jun 18, 2020 11:05 am
SCOTUS gets it right twice in one week. Waiting for the usual butthurt conservatives in 3 ... 2 ... 1 ...
I guess I get to be the first one....

How exactly does Roberts justify the ruling that one Presidents executive order is valid, but the executive order by another President rescinding it isn't? Sorry, that doesn't pass constitutional muster to me.
Would you have preferred an activist ruling?
Isn't that kind of what it was? I would call it a "I think Trump sucks" ruling on Robert's part.

The Obamacare ruling was a "I want everyone to think I love our first black President and want to have the Washington press fawn all over me ruling".

He had to rewrite the damn thing.
New York and Chicago were all in with respect to their sanctuary status — until they were hit with the challenge of actually providing sanctuary. In other words, typical liberal hypocrisy.

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Re: Supreme Court Rules Against Trump On DACA

Post by TC Talks » Thu Jun 18, 2020 9:31 pm

I've got to admit, I was skeptical about Gorsuch but he seems come out of the closet with some good rulings occasionally.
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Re: Supreme Court Rules Against Trump On DACA

Post by Turkeytop » Fri Jun 19, 2020 12:30 am

TC Talks wrote:
Thu Jun 18, 2020 9:31 pm
I've got to admit, I was skeptical about Gorsuch but he seems come out of the closet with some good rulings occasionally.
I always believed he would. Forget about Kavanaugh.
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Re: Supreme Court Rules Against Trump On DACA

Post by Matt » Fri Jun 19, 2020 5:24 am

Bryce wrote:
Thu Jun 18, 2020 9:14 pm
Matt wrote:
Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:32 pm
Bryce wrote:
Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:06 pm
Vic Doucette wrote:
Thu Jun 18, 2020 11:05 am
SCOTUS gets it right twice in one week. Waiting for the usual butthurt conservatives in 3 ... 2 ... 1 ...
I guess I get to be the first one....

How exactly does Roberts justify the ruling that one Presidents executive order is valid, but the executive order by another President rescinding it isn't? Sorry, that doesn't pass constitutional muster to me.
Would you have preferred an activist ruling?
Isn't that kind of what it was? I would call it a "I think Trump sucks" ruling on Robert's part.

The Obamacare ruling was a "I want everyone to think I love our first black President and want to have the Washington press fawn all over me ruling".

He had to rewrite the damn thing.
I would say that DACA was initiated by an activist president, when it should have gone through the legislative process. I don't think its ultimately a bad policy, but that is beside the point. When Trump decided he wanted to reverse the policy, the administration should have taken great care to make sure it was handled correctly. They didn't, which opened up the opportunity for the procedural question to be raised. In this case, allowing DACA to be overturned because a majority of the court didn’t like the policy and were willing to overlook the procedural errors made by the Trump administration, would have been an activist decision.
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Re: Supreme Court Rules Against Trump On DACA

Post by Rate This » Fri Jun 19, 2020 6:52 am

Matt wrote:
Fri Jun 19, 2020 5:24 am
Bryce wrote:
Thu Jun 18, 2020 9:14 pm
Matt wrote:
Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:32 pm
Bryce wrote:
Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:06 pm
Vic Doucette wrote:
Thu Jun 18, 2020 11:05 am
SCOTUS gets it right twice in one week. Waiting for the usual butthurt conservatives in 3 ... 2 ... 1 ...
I guess I get to be the first one....

How exactly does Roberts justify the ruling that one Presidents executive order is valid, but the executive order by another President rescinding it isn't? Sorry, that doesn't pass constitutional muster to me.
Would you have preferred an activist ruling?
Isn't that kind of what it was? I would call it a "I think Trump sucks" ruling on Robert's part.

The Obamacare ruling was a "I want everyone to think I love our first black President and want to have the Washington press fawn all over me ruling".

He had to rewrite the damn thing.
I would say that DACA was initiated by an activist president, when it should have gone through the legislative process. I don't think its ultimately a bad policy, but that is beside the point. When Trump decided he wanted to reverse the policy, the administration should have taken great care to make sure it was handled correctly. They didn't, which opened up the opportunity for the procedural question to be raised. In this case, allowing DACA to be overturned because a majority of the court didn’t like the policy and were willing to overlook the procedural errors made by the Trump administration, would have been an activist decision.
That and Roberts seems to want to protect the courts reputation for calling balls and strikes so occasionally he throws the liberals a bone. I don’t think he’s the second coming of Anthony Kennedy though.

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Re: Supreme Court Rules Against Trump On DACA

Post by TC Talks » Fri Jun 19, 2020 2:05 pm

Kavanaugh doesn't seem to be concerned about the structure of law so far.
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