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Wisconsin Supreme Court rules “stay at home” unconstitutional

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Wisconsin Supreme Court rules “stay at home” unconstitutional

Post by lovinlife101 » Wed May 13, 2020 6:38 pm

49 to go!



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Re: Wisconsin Supreme Court rules “stay at home” unconstitutional

Post by audiophile » Wed May 13, 2020 8:49 pm

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Re: Wisconsin Supreme Court rules “stay at home” unconstitutional

Post by bmw » Wed May 13, 2020 9:06 pm

I've been reading through some of the order. It is quite scathing of Wisconsin's governor. At one point, the majority finds that the governor "cites no authority for this vast seizure of power," calling parts of her order "obvious overreach."

Ouch!
Order 28 goes far beyond what is authorized in Wis. Stat. § 252.02(4). For example, Order 28 exceeds the § 252.02(4) authority to quarantine those infected or suspected of being infected. Instead, Palm quarantines "[a]ll individuals present within the State of Wisconsin" by ordering them "to stay at home or at their place of residence" with exceptions she deems appropriate.17 She also prohibits "All public and private gatherings of any number of people that are not part of a single household or living unit."18 Again, this directive is not based
on persons infected or suspected of being infected.

Palm skips over this obvious overreach and contends that the first and second provision of Wis. Stat. § 252.02(4) permit actions taken in Order 28. However, once again, Order 28 is overly broad in its proscriptions. "Áll forms of travel are prohibited except for essential travel as defined in this Order,"19 i.e., by Palm. If this restriction supposedly is connected to the first permissible action under § 252.02(4) to "guard against the introduction of any communicable disease into the state," Order 28 goes well beyond entry of communicable disease into the state. It prevents "All forms of travel," not simply interstate travel. Furthermore, nothing in § 252.02(4) permits Palm to close "All for-profit and non-profit businesses with a facility in Wisconsin, except [those Palm defies as essential businesses and operations]." She cites no authority for this vast seizure of power.



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Re: Wisconsin Supreme Court rules “stay at home” unconstitutional

Post by audiophile » Wed May 13, 2020 9:49 pm

They might be able Cut and paste for Whitmer, LOL.


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Re: Wisconsin Supreme Court rules “stay at home” unconstitutional

Post by Turkeytop » Wed May 13, 2020 10:02 pm

Can they force people to leave their homes if they're afraid to?



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Re: Wisconsin Supreme Court rules “stay at home” unconstitutional

Post by Rate This » Wed May 13, 2020 11:28 pm

bmw wrote:
Wed May 13, 2020 9:06 pm
I've been reading through some of the order. It is quite scathing of Wisconsin's governor. At one point, the majority finds that the governor "cites no authority for this vast seizure of power," calling parts of her order "obvious overreach."

Ouch!
Order 28 goes far beyond what is authorized in Wis. Stat. § 252.02(4). For example, Order 28 exceeds the § 252.02(4) authority to quarantine those infected or suspected of being infected. Instead, Palm quarantines "[a]ll individuals present within the State of Wisconsin" by ordering them "to stay at home or at their place of residence" with exceptions she deems appropriate.17 She also prohibits "All public and private gatherings of any number of people that are not part of a single household or living unit."18 Again, this directive is not based
on persons infected or suspected of being infected.

Palm skips over this obvious overreach and contends that the first and second provision of Wis. Stat. § 252.02(4) permit actions taken in Order 28. However, once again, Order 28 is overly broad in its proscriptions. "Áll forms of travel are prohibited except for essential travel as defined in this Order,"19 i.e., by Palm. If this restriction supposedly is connected to the first permissible action under § 252.02(4) to "guard against the introduction of any communicable disease into the state," Order 28 goes well beyond entry of communicable disease into the state. It prevents "All forms of travel," not simply interstate travel. Furthermore, nothing in § 252.02(4) permits Palm to close "All for-profit and non-profit businesses with a facility in Wisconsin, except [those Palm defies as essential businesses and operations]." She cites no authority for this vast seizure of power.
4-3 along party lines it should be noted...



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Re: Wisconsin Supreme Court rules “stay at home” unconstitutional

Post by Honeyman » Wed May 13, 2020 11:32 pm

These are the same piles of shit who ruled about the primary, correct?



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Re: Wisconsin Supreme Court rules “stay at home” unconstitutional

Post by Rate This » Wed May 13, 2020 11:50 pm

Honeyman wrote:
Wed May 13, 2020 11:32 pm
These are the same piles of shit who ruled about the primary, correct?
Bingo... $200 awaits.



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Re: Wisconsin Supreme Court rules “stay at home” unconstitutional

Post by bmw » Thu May 14, 2020 12:26 am

Rate This wrote:
Wed May 13, 2020 11:28 pm
4-3 along party lines it should be noted...
Not exactly. One conservative crossed over. Unfortunately, neither of the 2 liberals got this one right (surprise, surprise).



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Re: Wisconsin Supreme Court rules “stay at home” unconstitutional

Post by Rate This » Thu May 14, 2020 2:06 am

bmw wrote:
Thu May 14, 2020 12:26 am
Rate This wrote:
Wed May 13, 2020 11:28 pm
4-3 along party lines it should be noted...
Not exactly. One conservative crossed over. Unfortunately, neither of the 2 liberals got this one right (surprise, surprise).
Undoubtedly if Jill Karofsky was seated already it would have been 4-3 along party lines or the order would have been upheld. She takes Daniel Kelly’s spot on August 1st. I was under the impression she was on there already.

Palm is the State Health Secretary... Tony Evers is the Governor... Apparently Wisconsin has a different structure to their cabinet and who issues these orders...
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Re: Wisconsin Supreme Court rules “stay at home” unconstitutional

Post by screen glare » Thu May 14, 2020 2:40 am

I say kick every yahoo who wants to protest stay-at-home orders out into a crowd of like-minded yahoos! The faster they all get sick infecting each other with asymptomatic COVID the better.

Let em liberate each other. Straight to hell.

Get your hair cut, eat in restaurants, get your skin heads and arms and necks tattooed, play football, work in the factories for the man, open back up your small businesses, welcome customers, go hog wild meetin and greetin, breathe heavily, party hard, shake hands, dance up a storm, endanger your tag along kids, work tirelessly, eat up, shop, celebrate together. Have a blast with friends and family Get back to target practice. Wear out that fine Trump/neoNazi garb.

The rest of us will avoid all that imbecilic behavior. We’ll do the more difficult and wise thing. Stay-at-home. Help the hospitals and medical workers. Let science be our guide. And don’t allow our homes to become dens of contagion like Trump’s residence.



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Re: Wisconsin Supreme Court rules “stay at home” unconstitutional

Post by Matt » Thu May 14, 2020 6:28 am

screen glare wrote:
Thu May 14, 2020 2:40 am
I say kick every yahoo who wants to protest stay-at-home orders out into a crowd of like-minded yahoos! The faster they all get sick infecting each other with asymptomatic COVID the better.

Let em liberate each other. Straight to hell.

Get your hair cut, eat in restaurants, get your skin heads and arms and necks tattooed, play football, work in the factories for the man, open back up your small businesses, welcome customers, go hog wild meetin and greetin, breathe heavily, party hard, shake hands, dance up a storm, endanger your tag along kids, work tirelessly, eat up, shop, celebrate together. Have a blast with friends and family Get back to target practice. Wear out that fine Trump/neoNazi garb.

The rest of us will avoid all that imbecilic behavior. We’ll do the more difficult and wise thing. Stay-at-home. Help the hospitals and medical workers. Let science be our guide. And don’t allow our homes to become dens of contagion like Trump’s residence.
You are despicable.



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Re: Wisconsin Supreme Court rules “stay at home” unconstitutional

Post by lovinlife101 » Thu May 14, 2020 6:35 am

Turkeytop wrote:
Wed May 13, 2020 10:02 pm
Can they force people to leave their homes if they're afraid to?
NOPE!

Freedom doesn’t work that way.

No force. No coercion.

You decide whether to leave your home or not.



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Re: Wisconsin Supreme Court rules “stay at home” unconstitutional

Post by lovinlife101 » Thu May 14, 2020 6:37 am

screen glare wrote:
Thu May 14, 2020 2:40 am
I say kick every yahoo who wants to protest stay-at-home orders out into a crowd of like-minded yahoos! The faster they all get sick infecting each other with asymptomatic COVID the better.

Let em liberate each other. Straight to hell.

Get your hair cut, eat in restaurants, get your skin heads and arms and necks tattooed, play football, work in the factories for the man, open back up your small businesses, welcome customers, go hog wild meetin and greetin, breathe heavily, party hard, shake hands, dance up a storm, endanger your tag along kids, work tirelessly, eat up, shop, celebrate together. Have a blast with friends and family Get back to target practice. Wear out that fine Trump/neoNazi garb.

The rest of us will avoid all that imbecilic behavior. We’ll do the more difficult and wise thing. Stay-at-home. Help the hospitals and medical workers. Let science be our guide. And don’t allow our homes to become dens of contagion like Trump’s residence.
Yet you don’t classify baby-killing as “imbecilic behavior.”

Again, how can anyone take a baby-killer supporter seriously?



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Re: Wisconsin Supreme Court rules “stay at home” unconstitutional

Post by audiophile » Thu May 14, 2020 7:15 am

You can't. Their entire 'life' is a contradiction.


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