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Deaths balloon in June predicted by the CDC

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Re: Deaths balloon in June predicted by the CDC

Post by km1125 » Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:08 pm

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Matt, both of those states have the lowest rates of spread in the country, but go ahead, tell us who's gotten it right?
And they both still have the HIGHEST case fatality rates it the nation!! And you should check that data on "lowest rates of spread"...last I checked they were no where near the lowest. MI was about 1/2 in the pack of all states.



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Re: Deaths balloon in June predicted by the CDC

Post by RedMenace » Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:49 pm

Wow. TCtalksshit reveling in American deaths just so he can feel justified in his predictions.

There are only 2 numbers that are of importance.

1. How many are hospitalized
2. How many actually die from it.

The number of positive cases doesn't mean jackshit. It's irrelevant.
Hospitals were never "overwhelmed" as predicted. And the only way to get an idea on how deadly it really is. Is to compare the overall death toll from the same timeframe in previous years. Because everyone with remotely any common sense knows the number of death has been exaggerated. Doctors from around the world have reported that they were instructed to code deaths as covid related whether it was the cause or not.


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Re: Deaths balloon in June predicted by the CDC

Post by TC Talks » Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:01 pm

Any evidence, or are you a "pull it out of your ass" type that just magically arrived knowing way too much about the workings of our board.

Which is your other userid?


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Re: Deaths balloon in June predicted by the CDC

Post by Rate This » Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:20 pm

RedMenace wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:49 pm
Wow. TCtalksshit reveling in American deaths just so he can feel justified in his predictions.

There are only 2 numbers that are of importance.

1. How many are hospitalized
2. How many actually die from it.

The number of positive cases doesn't mean jackshit. It's irrelevant.
Hospitals were never "overwhelmed" as predicted. And the only way to get an idea on how deadly it really is. Is to compare the overall death toll from the same timeframe in previous years. Because everyone with remotely any common sense knows the number of death has been exaggerated. Doctors from around the world have reported that they were instructed to code deaths as covid related whether it was the cause or not.
Oh goody... a live one..

In several places down South At the present time we are seeing full or nearly full ICU’s and dwindling capacities. Too bad.



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Re: Deaths balloon in June predicted by the CDC

Post by RedMenace » Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:47 pm

TC Talks wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:01 pm
Any evidence, or are you a "pull it out of your ass" type that just magically arrived knowing way too much about the workings of our board.

Which is your other userid?
My other ID? Lol, sorry to disappoint you but I've just recently found this place. As far as "the workings of this bored" don't kid yourself. I had you pegged after reading about 2 of your posts.
I'm guessing overweight mouth breather who was born with a silver spoon shoved up your ass. You live and grew up in a predominantly "white" city or town. Have probably never known a hard days work in your life.
Am I close? Shall I go on?


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Re: Deaths balloon in June predicted by the CDC

Post by RedMenace » Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:54 pm

Rate This wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:20 pm
RedMenace wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:49 pm
Wow. TCtalksshit reveling in American deaths just so he can feel justified in his predictions.

There are only 2 numbers that are of importance.

1. How many are hospitalized
2. How many actually die from it.

The number of positive cases doesn't mean jackshit. It's irrelevant.
Hospitals were never "overwhelmed" as predicted. And the only way to get an idea on how deadly it really is. Is to compare the overall death toll from the same timeframe in previous years. Because everyone with remotely any common sense knows the number of death has been exaggerated. Doctors from around the world have reported that they were instructed to code deaths as covid related whether it was the cause or not.
Oh goody... a live one..

In several places down South At the present time we are seeing full or nearly full ICU’s and dwindling capacities. Too bad.
You got a link or are you just pulling that out of your ass?

Because I can't find any videos of hospitals being "overwhelmed" or at max capacity. But I can see where the "emergency hospital" that was put up to handle the "overflow" of covid19 patients around Detroit was dismantled.

You know what else you can easily find? Doctors and nurses making "TicTocks" while on duty. And that was when NY was supposed to be being "overwhelmed".


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Re: Deaths balloon in June predicted by the CDC

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Re: Deaths balloon in June predicted by the CDC

Post by RedMenace » Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:46 am

Where's the video showing that?

"George Ralls, the vice president and system chief quality officer with Orlando Health, said that hospitals are currently operating at around 85% capacity, which is a rise from earlier in the pandemic but also around the normal rate; Ralls attributed the rise to patients who would normally receive hospital care like elective surgeries returning to inpatient facilities."


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Re: Deaths balloon in June predicted by the CDC

Post by km1125 » Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:04 am

Rate This wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:20 pm
RedMenace wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:49 pm
Wow. TCtalksshit reveling in American deaths just so he can feel justified in his predictions.

There are only 2 numbers that are of importance.

1. How many are hospitalized
2. How many actually die from it.

The number of positive cases doesn't mean jackshit. It's irrelevant.
Hospitals were never "overwhelmed" as predicted. And the only way to get an idea on how deadly it really is. Is to compare the overall death toll from the same timeframe in previous years. Because everyone with remotely any common sense knows the number of death has been exaggerated. Doctors from around the world have reported that they were instructed to code deaths as covid related whether it was the cause or not.
Oh goody... a live one..

In several places down South At the present time we are seeing full or nearly full ICU’s and dwindling capacities. Too bad.
Did you check those places and their capacity this time last year?? Yes, they were all at or above 90%!!! So, how much is "covid" really impacting them?? What have they done to set up temporary facilities for any spike? Are they using ANY of those facilities yet?? (BTW, how many beds at Showplace or Cobo have been used when our local hospitals were at "peak" capacity??)



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Re: Deaths balloon in June predicted by the CDC

Post by RedMenace » Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:23 am

Exactly


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Re: Deaths balloon in June predicted by the CDC

Post by Rate This » Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:31 am

km1125 wrote:
Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:04 am
Rate This wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:20 pm
RedMenace wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:49 pm
Wow. TCtalksshit reveling in American deaths just so he can feel justified in his predictions.

There are only 2 numbers that are of importance.

1. How many are hospitalized
2. How many actually die from it.

The number of positive cases doesn't mean jackshit. It's irrelevant.
Hospitals were never "overwhelmed" as predicted. And the only way to get an idea on how deadly it really is. Is to compare the overall death toll from the same timeframe in previous years. Because everyone with remotely any common sense knows the number of death has been exaggerated. Doctors from around the world have reported that they were instructed to code deaths as covid related whether it was the cause or not.
Oh goody... a live one..

In several places down South At the present time we are seeing full or nearly full ICU’s and dwindling capacities. Too bad.
Did you check those places and their capacity this time last year?? Yes, they were all at or above 90%!!! So, how much is "covid" really impacting them?? What have they done to set up temporary facilities for any spike? Are they using ANY of those facilities yet?? (BTW, how many beds at Showplace or Cobo have been used when our local hospitals were at "peak" capacity??)
The temporary hospitals were set up in case they were needed. It’s better to be safe than sorry in this case. The lockdown seems to have mitigated it for now.



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Re: Deaths balloon in June predicted by the CDC

Post by Matt » Wed Jul 08, 2020 11:17 am

Rate This wrote:
Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:31 am
km1125 wrote:
Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:04 am
Rate This wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:20 pm
RedMenace wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:49 pm
Wow. TCtalksshit reveling in American deaths just so he can feel justified in his predictions.

There are only 2 numbers that are of importance.

1. How many are hospitalized
2. How many actually die from it.

The number of positive cases doesn't mean jackshit. It's irrelevant.
Hospitals were never "overwhelmed" as predicted. And the only way to get an idea on how deadly it really is. Is to compare the overall death toll from the same timeframe in previous years. Because everyone with remotely any common sense knows the number of death has been exaggerated. Doctors from around the world have reported that they were instructed to code deaths as covid related whether it was the cause or not.
Oh goody... a live one..

In several places down South At the present time we are seeing full or nearly full ICU’s and dwindling capacities. Too bad.
Did you check those places and their capacity this time last year?? Yes, they were all at or above 90%!!! So, how much is "covid" really impacting them?? What have they done to set up temporary facilities for any spike? Are they using ANY of those facilities yet?? (BTW, how many beds at Showplace or Cobo have been used when our local hospitals were at "peak" capacity??)
The temporary hospitals were set up in case they were needed. It’s better to be safe than sorry in this case. The lockdown seems to have mitigated it for now.
There is no evidence that lockdowns did a damn thing.


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Re: Deaths balloon in June predicted by the CDC

Post by Rate This » Wed Jul 08, 2020 11:35 am

Cases are way down which lines up with a significant lack of contact between people. We can see the hot weather isn’t to blame unless you’re going to sell me a blizzard in Miami in July?



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Re: Deaths balloon in June predicted by the CDC

Post by km1125 » Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:38 am

Rate This wrote:
Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:31 am
km1125 wrote:
Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:04 am
Rate This wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:20 pm
RedMenace wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:49 pm
Wow. TCtalksshit reveling in American deaths just so he can feel justified in his predictions.

There are only 2 numbers that are of importance.

1. How many are hospitalized
2. How many actually die from it.

The number of positive cases doesn't mean jackshit. It's irrelevant.
Hospitals were never "overwhelmed" as predicted. And the only way to get an idea on how deadly it really is. Is to compare the overall death toll from the same timeframe in previous years. Because everyone with remotely any common sense knows the number of death has been exaggerated. Doctors from around the world have reported that they were instructed to code deaths as covid related whether it was the cause or not.
Oh goody... a live one..

In several places down South At the present time we are seeing full or nearly full ICU’s and dwindling capacities. Too bad.
Did you check those places and their capacity this time last year?? Yes, they were all at or above 90%!!! So, how much is "covid" really impacting them?? What have they done to set up temporary facilities for any spike? Are they using ANY of those facilities yet?? (BTW, how many beds at Showplace or Cobo have been used when our local hospitals were at "peak" capacity??)
The temporary hospitals were set up in case they were needed. It’s better to be safe than sorry in this case. The lockdown seems to have mitigated it for now.
Yes, much, much better to stick those sick folks in the old folks' homes or back in a regular hospital so folks are afraid to get their normal ongoing non-Covid treatment!!! DOH!!

You PAID to build and maintain temp facilities to treat COVID patients and then NOT use it??? STUPID ALL AROUND and puts more people at risk!!



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Re: Deaths balloon in June predicted by the CDC

Post by Rate This » Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:41 am

km1125 wrote:
Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:38 am
Rate This wrote:
Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:31 am
km1125 wrote:
Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:04 am
Rate This wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:20 pm
RedMenace wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:49 pm
Wow. TCtalksshit reveling in American deaths just so he can feel justified in his predictions.

There are only 2 numbers that are of importance.

1. How many are hospitalized
2. How many actually die from it.

The number of positive cases doesn't mean jackshit. It's irrelevant.
Hospitals were never "overwhelmed" as predicted. And the only way to get an idea on how deadly it really is. Is to compare the overall death toll from the same timeframe in previous years. Because everyone with remotely any common sense knows the number of death has been exaggerated. Doctors from around the world have reported that they were instructed to code deaths as covid related whether it was the cause or not.
Oh goody... a live one..

In several places down South At the present time we are seeing full or nearly full ICU’s and dwindling capacities. Too bad.
Did you check those places and their capacity this time last year?? Yes, they were all at or above 90%!!! So, how much is "covid" really impacting them?? What have they done to set up temporary facilities for any spike? Are they using ANY of those facilities yet?? (BTW, how many beds at Showplace or Cobo have been used when our local hospitals were at "peak" capacity??)
The temporary hospitals were set up in case they were needed. It’s better to be safe than sorry in this case. The lockdown seems to have mitigated it for now.
Yes, much, much better to stick those sick folks in the old folks' homes or back in a regular hospital so folks are afraid to get their normal ongoing non-Covid treatment!!! DOH!!

You PAID to build and maintain temp facilities to treat COVID patients and then NOT use it??? STUPID ALL AROUND and puts more people at risk!!
It was handled poorly. But that’s what happens without a coherent national response. Everybody guesses for themselves.



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