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Where's the evidence that "Stay at Home" slows the spread?
Re: Where's the evidence that "Stay at Home" slows the spread?
Look at the three most successful countries. How did they produce such low infection rates?
Maybe epidemiologists BMW and Audio can whip out a spreadsheet to dispute the lockdown success. I mean, Stanford has nothing on a home schooled high school education.
Read the methodology of the model I use.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ETe ... obilebasic
Maybe epidemiologists BMW and Audio can whip out a spreadsheet to dispute the lockdown success. I mean, Stanford has nothing on a home schooled high school education.
Read the methodology of the model I use.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ETe ... obilebasic
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Re: Where's the evidence that "Stay at Home" slows the spread?
What a cheap shot, besides I have taught in accredited public schools and received paychecks for it.
Without it the spread slows down, but it will just resume when lockdown is lifted. Actually the lock down can not be lifted until there is cure or until there is significant immunity wall.
In Asia they require masks. Period.
Without it the spread slows down, but it will just resume when lockdown is lifted. Actually the lock down can not be lifted until there is cure or until there is significant immunity wall.
In Asia they require masks. Period.
Ask not what your country can do FOR you; ask what they are about to do TO YOU!!
Re: Where's the evidence that "Stay at Home" slows the spread?
The last point being something they are talking about here now.audiophile wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 7:56 amWhat a cheap shot, besides I have taught in accredited public schools and received paychecks for it.
Without it the spread slows down, but it will just resume when lockdown is lifted. Actually the lock down can not be lifted until there is cure or until there is significant immunity wall.
In Asia they require masks. Period.
Re: Where's the evidence that "Stay at Home" slows the spread?
Asians have worn masks since SARS if not beforeRate This wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 8:45 amThe last point being something they are talking about here now.audiophile wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 7:56 amWhat a cheap shot, besides I have taught in accredited public schools and received paychecks for it.
Without it the spread slows down, but it will just resume when lockdown is lifted. Actually the lock down can not be lifted until there is cure or until there is significant immunity wall.
In Asia they require masks. Period.
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Re: Where's the evidence that "Stay at Home" slows the spread?
But what of the "experts", RT???Rate This wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 8:45 amThe last point being something they are talking about here now.audiophile wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 7:56 amWhat a cheap shot, besides I have taught in accredited public schools and received paychecks for it.
Without it the spread slows down, but it will just resume when lockdown is lifted. Actually the lock down can not be lifted until there is cure or until there is significant immunity wall.
In Asia they require masks. Period.
I'm an independent thinker and have been saying this for a while. It was just common sense.
Ask not what your country can do FOR you; ask what they are about to do TO YOU!!
Re: Where's the evidence that "Stay at Home" slows the spread?
I realize that... I’m mentioning that it is being considered by the U.S. Government at this point.ftballfan wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 8:53 amAsians have worn masks since SARS if not beforeRate This wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 8:45 amThe last point being something they are talking about here now.audiophile wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 7:56 amWhat a cheap shot, besides I have taught in accredited public schools and received paychecks for it.
Without it the spread slows down, but it will just resume when lockdown is lifted. Actually the lock down can not be lifted until there is cure or until there is significant immunity wall.
In Asia they require masks. Period.
Re: Where's the evidence that "Stay at Home" slows the spread?
I was only addressing the idea of requiring masks.. something experts are now debating and considering recommending.audiophile wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 9:03 amBut what of the "experts", RT???Rate This wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 8:45 amThe last point being something they are talking about here now.audiophile wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 7:56 amWhat a cheap shot, besides I have taught in accredited public schools and received paychecks for it.
Without it the spread slows down, but it will just resume when lockdown is lifted. Actually the lock down can not be lifted until there is cure or until there is significant immunity wall.
In Asia they require masks. Period.
I'm an independent thinker and have been saying this for a while. It was just common sense.
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Re: Where's the evidence that "Stay at Home" slows the spread?
Saw an interesting quote which as far as I know is factual
"The virus doesn't move. People move the virus. If people stop moving the virus stops moving with them.
"The virus doesn't move. People move the virus. If people stop moving the virus stops moving with them.
I no longer directly engage trolls
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Re: Where's the evidence that "Stay at Home" slows the spread?
It's as though nobody in the White House watched 10 seconds of footage that came out of China and elsewhere. Masks. Temperature taking before entry into enclosed public spaces. We're doomed.ftballfan wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 8:53 amAsians have worn masks since SARS if not beforeRate This wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 8:45 amThe last point being something they are talking about here now.audiophile wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 7:56 amWhat a cheap shot, besides I have taught in accredited public schools and received paychecks for it.
Without it the spread slows down, but it will just resume when lockdown is lifted. Actually the lock down can not be lifted until there is cure or until there is significant immunity wall.
In Asia they require masks. Period.
Re: Where's the evidence that "Stay at Home" slows the spread?
Oh, you want something from Stanford? How about this:
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news ... ality-rateTwo professors of medicine at Stanford University published an opinion article Tuesday in the Wall Street Journal, suggesting there is little evidence that the coronavirus would kill millions of people without shelter-in-place orders and quarantines...
On March 6, all 3,300 people of Vò were tested, and 90 were positive, a prevalence of 2.7%,” the professors said. “Applying that prevalence to the whole province (population 955,000), which had 198 reported cases, suggests there were actually 26,000 infections at that time. That’s more than 130-fold the number of actual reported cases. Since Italy’s case fatality rate of 8% is estimated using the confirmed cases, the real fatality rate could in fact be closer to 0.06%.
Wait, WHAT? Possibly a 0.06% fatality rate? Lower than the flu? From two professors of medicine at Stanford University?
What do you have to say to that, TC Talks? Why should i Believe your estimated mortality rate of 4% when I have two professors of medicine at Stanford University telling me that it could be as low as 0.06%?
Re: Where's the evidence that "Stay at Home" slows the spread?
So what is 200,000 0.06% of?bmw wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:36 pmOh, you want something from Stanford? How about this:
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news ... ality-rateTwo professors of medicine at Stanford University published an opinion article Tuesday in the Wall Street Journal, suggesting there is little evidence that the coronavirus would kill millions of people without shelter-in-place orders and quarantines...
On March 6, all 3,300 people of Vò were tested, and 90 were positive, a prevalence of 2.7%,” the professors said. “Applying that prevalence to the whole province (population 955,000), which had 198 reported cases, suggests there were actually 26,000 infections at that time. That’s more than 130-fold the number of actual reported cases. Since Italy’s case fatality rate of 8% is estimated using the confirmed cases, the real fatality rate could in fact be closer to 0.06%.
Wait, WHAT? Possibly a 0.06% fatality rate? Lower than the flu? From two professors of medicine at Stanford University?
What do you have to say to that, TC Talks? Why should i Believe your estimated mortality rate of 4% when I have two professors of medicine at Stanford University telling me that it could be as low as 0.06%?
Re: Where's the evidence that "Stay at Home" slows the spread?
Their suggestion is that for every 1 reported infection, there may actually be 50 or 60 that aren't reported. Which quite frankly makes sense if you believe that the R0 value is indeed 2.3 compared to 1.3 for the flu. If 30 million Americans had the flu this past season, it is not inconceivable that 9 million Americans actually have the coronavirus. We know it has been in the US going back to January. Maybe nearly 10 million Americans really do have it. Maybe most just don't get that ill.
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Re: Where's the evidence that "Stay at Home" slows the spread?
China seems to be now admitting a greater number of patients are asymptomatic than previously believed.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... r-pressure
Whether or not that impacts planning from our government remains to be seen.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... r-pressure
Whether or not that impacts planning from our government remains to be seen.
Re: Where's the evidence that "Stay at Home" slows the spread?
Even the administration is spitting out the 200,000 deaths figure as a best case...bmw wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:46 pmTheir suggestion is that for every 1 reported infection, there may actually be 50 or 60 that aren't reported. Which quite frankly makes sense if you believe that the R0 value is indeed 2.3 compared to 1.3 for the flu. If 30 million Americans had the flu this past season, it is not inconceivable that 9 million Americans actually have the coronavirus. We know it has been in the US going back to January. Maybe nearly 10 million Americans really do have it. Maybe most just don't get that ill.
Re: Where's the evidence that "Stay at Home" slows the spread?
That 200,000 will be a success story.
I started out with nothing and I still have most of it.