It's Not About Race...

[Ben Zonia]

It's not about race why predominantly Black cities seem to have been hit harder by this virus. It's because of HIGH DENSITY HOUSING and PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION (including sardine packed airplanes) spreading the virus. We should abandon the policies that have caused this, like tearing down and burning down neighborhoods and building freeways and moving the residents to high density public housing, and encouraging abandoning automobiles for so called rapid transport.

In the 1950s and 1960s, and even the 1970s, these areas were filled with gainfully employed blue collar workers, Black and White. Then they started abandoning the plants and sending the jobs to Mexico and Overseas, notably to China. This resulted in much denser populations in cities where a virus can take hold in a hurry.

We should not trust or depend on China on any level any more after this. Bring the jobs home. Trump has done this the best he can between investigations, impeachment, and crises. But more needs to be done and Trump is the only one who has paid more than lip service or even discouragement like Obama did-"those jobs are never coming back".

Single family affordable homes with decent sized lots that are far enough apart to "social distance" without bumping into your neighbors. Building automobiles and smaller personal but safe individual transportation ourselves. Bicycles are not safe. Scooters are not safe. Motorized open vehicles are not safe. None are good or safe in winter. Continued development of resources like the oil and natural gas fields. Research new energy sources and build them, but don't expect that they can provide all needed energy. Unless there are really good alternatives, it won't work. It's taken this long to develop a decent cheap LED light bulb to credibly replace Edison's heat generating incandescents. Face it, CFLs were a disaster, bad color temperature, short life, dangerous ultraviolet radiation, disposal dangers, breakage dangers, fire dangers, and they really didn't save much energy.

Let us go back to self sufficiency and slowly improve rather than just forcing change. THE WORLD WILL NOT END IN 12 YEARS. YOU KNOW THAT, DEEP DOWN.

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It is about race.

Sorry.

In The United States of America we have generations of African Americans, Latinos, Native Americans, and other groups of persons whose ancestry is of a non-white ethnicity. They are the USA population of color. And most of our multi-generational poverty-inundated neighborhoods are populated by non-whites.

There is NO very American, very real white privilege extended to those persons of color. In fact - they usually have the WORST of everything. Healthcare. Life Expectancy. Early Education. Food. Water. Utilities. Transportation. Income. Shelter. Voting Rights. General Safety in all situations. Justice in all cases. Equal Opportunities in all situations. Etc. Etc. Etc.

Affirmative Action? A drop in the bucket.

In MAGA land - life sucks if you aren't born with skin that entitles you to a magical power: first-impression white privilege. Check your image in Trump’s mirror to see if you look like him or any of his extended family.

[MWmetalhead]

It's not about race why predominantly Black cities seem to have been hit harder by this virus. It's because of HIGH DENSITY HOUSING and PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION (including sardine packed airplanes) spreading the virus. We should abandon the policies that have caused this, like tearing down and burning down neighborhoods and building freeways and moving the residents to high density public housing, and encouraging abandoning automobiles for so called rapid transport.

In the 1950s and 1960s, and even the 1970s, these areas were filled with gainfully employed blue collar workers, Black and White. Then they started abandoning the plants and sending the jobs to Mexico and Overseas, notably to China. This resulted in much denser populations in cities where a virus can take hold in a hurry.

Detroit contained nearly 3x as many residents in the 1950s as it does now, so your claims about "much denser populations in cities" has no merit.

Flint had nearly 2x the population it does today.

Cleveland had 2.5x the population in 1950 compared to today.

That said, African Americans are indeed more likely (as a percentage of their overall population) to be apartment dwellers, and at least in this region of the country, they are certainly far more likely to utilize public transportation.

Another reason why African Americans are more susceptible to the virus? They disproportionately fill retail jobs in the region. They are more likely to be exposed to the general public for hours on end.

[MWmetalhead]

African Amercians are far more likely to die from asthma, sarcoidosis, and lung cancer than whites.

They also are twice as likely (vs whites) to be diabetic. Persons with diabetes are at higher risk of suffering complications, possibly fatal, from COVID-19.

https://www.webmd.com/hypertension-high ... cks-most#1

Relatively polluted air in urban environments is one likely reason African American's lung function is more likely to be compromised.

[audiophile]

Most of hard working folks don't have time to take up smoking, pot, drugs, alcohol or even overeating. I most people in my family lived to mid 80's to mid 90's. The harder they worked it seems the longer they lived...

[Deleted User 12047]

I'm sorry, fellow White privileged but it is about race in America.

In the early 1950's decorated World War II Army veterans were beaten and lynched in more than one state because they voted in an election. Lynchings continued into the 1980's and it took a civil suit from a victim's mother in 1987 to bankrupt and stop the KKK.

It took a Pulitzer Prize series of articles in the 1980s to show that banks across America were using much higher credit standards before lending to blacks than whites. Redlining is still a problem in some Southern communities.

We've gone out of our way to avoid discussing and teaching the painful parts of the American history of black-white relations. Everybody learns of "Custer's Last Stand" against the "evil" Native Americans. Until very recently, no one was taught about the "Black Wall Street Massacre" in Tulsa, Oklahoma where an entire community was wiped out on a misunderstanding.

In the 1940's, the United States of America incarcerated over 50,000 American born US Citizens who's only crime was Japanese heritage. 40 years later, we saw fit not just to apologize but to compensate them financially for this abomination. Starting in the early days of the country, the United States of America allowed it's citizens to enslave other human beings, basically a fate MUCH worse than incarceration, who's only crime was the color of their skin. Most of them and their families never got a dime. Lincoln's "40 acres and a mule" promise was quickly broken by his Southern successor. Quit kidding yourself, America. We still have a lot of wounds we haven't figured out how to heal.

[Ben Zonia]

What MW has not considered is that a large percentage of the larger cities has been burned down and the land is nearly vacant. The remaining houses in these areas are almost always unoccupied. Then you have moved a fraction of the population in a fraction of the area, making the density nearly equal. Then much of the remaining population is in high density apartments, public housing, Section 8 private housing, and condominiums. And if you look at suburbs where this high density housing has now been built, those are the "hot spots" on the map. 1950-2000 "suburbanization" was people "social distancing" themselves to bigger houses on bigger lots.

Making this about race is pure Democratic politics.

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Ever notice how the Trumppimps must ignore facts (“Fake News!”) in order to laud their High Pimp? While he laughs with narcissistic self-satisfaction at their fear of him?

They think he gives a damn about them. While in his pea brain - they’re all expendable.

History has seen this same relationship many times. It doesn’t end well for the subjects. And at the bitter culmination - it does not end well for the demented leader.

But it DOES end.

And a rollicking ending it is.

[Bryce]

African Amercians are far more likely to die from asthma, sarcoidosis, and lung cancer than whites.

They also are twice as likely (vs whites) to be diabetic. Persons with diabetes are at higher risk of suffering complications, possibly fatal, from COVID-19.

https://www.webmd.com/hypertension-high ... cks-most#1

Relatively polluted air in urban environments is one likely reason African American's lung function is more likely to be compromised.

An excellent article by Heather McDonald points out that the "racialization of the coronavirus discourse is now pervasive." "Questions about racial disparities are now an almost inevitable part of local or federal press briefings."

But, being courageous, she also point out that:

But many of the same politicians and race activists who are now so incensed by coronavirus deaths have been virtually silent for years about far greater disparities in black-white fatality rates: those that result from urban crime.

Here's some numbers:

Black New Yorkers may be 27.5 percent of known coronavirus deaths, but they were 62.6 percent of murder and non-negligent manslaughter victims in the city in 2018.

The percentage of black coronavirus fatalities in Chicago may be “shocking,” in Mayor Lightfoot’s words, but she should be more shocked by blacks’ 83 percent share of Chicago’s homicide victim totals from April 7, 2019 through April 7, 2020, the day of the mayor’s remarks.

Black males died of homicide at over eight times the rate of white and Hispanic males combined. The 7,756 black homicide victims in 2016 constituted 51 percent of the nation’s death toll, though blacks are only 13.4 percent of the population.

Those are MAJOR disparities. They dwarf the coronavirus disparity by a GIGANTIC (can't use the other word) margin. Yet, Politicians and the media ignore these disparities because they are not fruitful material for promoting the racism narrative. And the "Race Hustlers" haven't found a way to make a buck from it.

https://amgreatness.com/2020/04/14/coro ... r-picture/

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African Amercians are far more likely to die from asthma, sarcoidosis, and lung cancer than whites.

They also are twice as likely (vs whites) to be diabetic. Persons with diabetes are at higher risk of suffering complications, possibly fatal, from COVID-19.

https://www.webmd.com/hypertension-high ... cks-most#1

Relatively polluted air in urban environments is one likely reason African American's lung function is more likely to be compromised.

An excellent article by Heather McDonald points out that the "racialization of the coronavirus discourse is now pervasive." "Questions about racial disparities are now an almost inevitable part of local or federal press briefings."

But, being courageous, she also point out that:

But many of the same politicians and race activists who are now so incensed by coronavirus deaths have been virtually silent for years about far greater disparities in black-white fatality rates: those that result from urban crime.

Here's some numbers:

Black New Yorkers may be 27.5 percent of known coronavirus deaths, but they were 62.6 percent of murder and non-negligent manslaughter victims in the city in 2018.

The percentage of black coronavirus fatalities in Chicago may be “shocking,” in Mayor Lightfoot’s words, but she should be more shocked by blacks’ 83 percent share of Chicago’s homicide victim totals from April 7, 2019 through April 7, 2020, the day of the mayor’s remarks.

Black males died of homicide at over eight times the rate of white and Hispanic males combined. The 7,756 black homicide victims in 2016 constituted 51 percent of the nation’s death toll, though blacks are only 13.4 percent of the population.

Those are MAJOR disparities. They dwarf the coronavirus disparity by a GIGANTIC (can't use the other word) margin. Yet, Politicians and the media ignore these disparities because they are not fruitful material for promoting the racism narrative. And the "Race Hustlers" haven't found a way to make a buck from it.

https://amgreatness.com/2020/04/14/coro ... r-picture/

These disparities get talked about all the time... you and that women writing the article aren’t revealing some earth shattering secret or something...

[TC Shuts Up]

If Race is such a factor, why does Macomb County, with 8.6 percent African Americans, have 4360 cases, and Oakland County, with 13.6 percent African Americans, have 6109 cases?

The last census found that 13 percent of the US population was African American.

I guess they should build a Trump Wall around pandemic infected Wayne, Oakland, and Macomb County, and open the rest of the state up again.

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So racist.

The “experts” say to avoid getting COVID-19, “Wash your hands, don’t touch your face, stay away from other people, stay home if you’re sick.”

Most of those impacted are African American.

So basically it is racist. It’s saying black people don’t wash their hands, they touch their faces, they hang out with other people, and go everywhere regardless of health.

Thank god such crack analysis is here... news flash bozo... the average human touches their face 10 times an hour...

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RT, I think it parody to the silly stuff the governor is saying.

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So racist.

The “experts” say to avoid getting COVID-19, “Wash your hands, don’t touch your face, stay away from other people, stay home if you’re sick.”

Most of those impacted are African American.

So basically it is racist. It’s saying black people don’t wash their hands, they touch their faces, they hang out with other people, and go everywhere regardless of health.

Thank god such crack analysis is here... news flash bozo... the average human touches their face 10 times an hour...

So blacks are touching their faces more? That’s what you’re saying. They’re also coughing on each other, sneezing each other, and not washing their hands. Numbers don’t lie.

That’s absolutely not what I’m saying. Thanks for playing skippy.

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So racist.

The “experts” say to avoid getting COVID-19, “Wash your hands, don’t touch your face, stay away from other people, stay home if you’re sick.”

Most of those impacted are African American.

So basically it is racist. It’s saying black people don’t wash their hands, they touch their faces, they hang out with other people, and go everywhere regardless of health.

Thank god such crack analysis is here... news flash bozo... the average human touches their face 10 times an hour...

So blacks are touching their faces more? That’s what you’re saying. They’re also coughing on each other, sneezing each other, and not washing their hands. Numbers don’t lie.

That’s absolutely not what I’m saying. Thanks for playing skippy.

So which is wrong, stats or science?

I’m done with you... you edited your post to change the meaning after the fact. Bye.