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lovinlife101
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Impeachment

Post by lovinlife101 » Tue Sep 24, 2019 7:47 pm

So, Nancy Plastic-face is leading the charge for impeachment.

Her supporters are all like, “Yes! We are going to stick it to Trump!”

Then, mark my words, Trump will not be removed from office, making this charade as pointless as the Clinton impeachment. Lots of grandstanding, theater, saber-rattling, and Johnson comparing. But at the end of the day, no impact.



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Re: Impeachment

Post by bmw » Tue Sep 24, 2019 7:58 pm

Just last week they were on the war path to impeach Justice Kavanaugh.

How's that one working out? Oh yeah, they kinda jumped the gun on that one.



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Re: Impeachment

Post by originalzzmfmjock » Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:47 pm

Frankly, If they want to impeach Trump, put up a viable candidate in the election next fall, and impeach him via the ballot box.



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Re: Impeachment

Post by lovinlife101 » Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:59 pm

originalzzmfmjock wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:47 pm
Frankly, If they want to impeach Trump, put up a viable candidate in the election next fall, and impeach him via the ballot box.
They have a whole clown car of candidates!

They just want this seeming pound of flesh to take back to their constituents. “At least we did something!”

No, you didn’t.



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Re: Impeachment

Post by lovinlife101 » Tue Sep 24, 2019 9:00 pm

bmw wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2019 7:58 pm
Just last week they were on the war path to impeach Justice Kavanaugh.

How's that one working out? Oh yeah, they kinda jumped the gun on that one.
They’re grasping at straws.



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Re: Impeachment

Post by bmw » Tue Sep 24, 2019 9:15 pm

I think some in the Democrat party see the handwriting on the walls - they know Trump is going to win in 2020. And they're literally having a full-blown mental meltdown.

Funny how a certain forum member in here constantly says Trump is mentally ill. It looks to me like it is the Democrat party as a whole that is mentally ill. They're simply not behaving rationally.



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Re: Impeachment

Post by Turkeytop » Tue Sep 24, 2019 9:18 pm

Trump in 2020

America adores Trump.



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Re: Impeachment

Post by tapeisrolling » Tue Sep 24, 2019 9:40 pm

I wouldn't be too sure... The Nixon impeachment started slow and gained speed as more and more came out. The hearing was a shit show like we've seen lately. One side asking questions and the other side shouting insults at the one's asking. Bit by bit the facts made it very uncomfortable for the Prez and his party leaned on him to go to save something worse coming out.



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Re: Impeachment

Post by Lester The Nightfly » Tue Sep 24, 2019 10:40 pm

Turkeytop wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2019 9:18 pm
Trump in 2020

America adores Trump.
Yeah, the love was so overwhelming that he couldn't carry the popular vote.

I wonder how many of those folks that specifically voted for Trump because he wasn't "Crooked Hillary" are going to have a taste for enthusiastically saddling up with a candidate who is under six House committee impeachment inquiries. Love comes and goes.



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Re: Impeachment

Post by bmw » Tue Sep 24, 2019 10:45 pm

Lester The Nightfly wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2019 10:40 pm
I wonder how many of those folks that specifically voted for Trump because he wasn't "Crooked Hillary" are going to have a taste for enthusiastically saddling up with a candidate who is under six House committee impeachment inquiries. Love comes and goes.
All of them. And then some. You can mark my words right now - this is a gigantic political miscalculation being made by the Dems. Trump's poll numbers will notch up another point or two over the coming weeks.



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Re: Impeachment

Post by Lester The Nightfly » Tue Sep 24, 2019 11:18 pm

bmw wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2019 10:45 pm
Lester The Nightfly wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2019 10:40 pm
I wonder how many of those folks that specifically voted for Trump because he wasn't "Crooked Hillary" are going to have a taste for enthusiastically saddling up with a candidate who is under six House committee impeachment inquiries. Love comes and goes.
All of them. And then some. You can mark my words right now - this is a gigantic political miscalculation being made by the Dems. Trump's poll numbers will notch up another point or two over the coming weeks.
It remains to be seen. tapeisrolling makes a good point. Nixon was popular too until though investigations and inquiries the country finally grew tired of the bullshit and said 'enough is enough' (or more accurately, when his elected supporters realized staying with Nixon would cost them their jobs)

tapeisrolling is also right about the worry about something worse coming out aspect. In the past 6 hours the White House has gone from promising full disclosure about the nature of the Ukrainian phone call to "we'll work something out" with the content of the whistle blowers charges. Given the Senate's 100-0 vote to release the information, if Trump attempts to renege, it's game over.



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Re: Impeachment

Post by bmw » Tue Sep 24, 2019 11:42 pm

The difference is that with Trump, the boy has cried wolf one too many times and his supporters JUST DON'T CARE about ANY accusations made against him. Considering everything he's been accused of during his Presidency, can you explain why his poll numbers remain virtually unchanged over the past 16 months or why he's near an all-time high right now? Simple. NOTHING is sticking to him. And the left has used up every ounce of political capital they had in going after him. It's gone.

Trump's supporters will stick with him right until the very end. And the left has never really understood his supporters or why they support him; hence why they've failed time and again to take him out.



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Re: Impeachment

Post by Lester The Nightfly » Tue Sep 24, 2019 11:57 pm

bmw wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2019 11:42 pm
The difference is that with Trump, the boy has cried wolf one too many times and his supporters JUST DON'T CARE about ANY accusations made against him. Considering everything he's been accused of during his Presidency, can you explain why his poll numbers remain virtually unchanged over the past 16 months or why he's near an all-time high right now? Simple. NOTHING is sticking to him. And the left has used up every ounce of political capital they had in going after him. It's gone.

Trump's supporters will stick with him right until the very end. And the left has never really understood his supporters or why they support him; hence why they've failed time and again to take him out.
I don't disagree with you. Where the logic falls apart is y'all seem to have bought in that the entire electorate are his supporters. That's not the case now, it has never been the case. We can quibble exact numbers but it's always been 35% give or take. You guys have been reading your own press way too much. The man has never had a majority of voters supporting him. Never. Sure, he's the most popular kid in your club, but your club isn't everyone. From the jump.



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Re: Impeachment

Post by TC Talks » Wed Sep 25, 2019 12:02 am

bmw wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2019 11:42 pm
The difference is that with Trump, the boy has cried wolf one too many times and his supporters JUST DON'T CARE about ANY accusations made against him. Considering everything he's been accused of during his Presidency, can you explain why his poll numbers remain virtually unchanged over the past 16 months or why he's near an all-time high right now? Simple. NOTHING is sticking to him. And the left has used up every ounce of political capital they had in going after him. It's gone.

Trump's supporters will stick with him right until the very end. And the left has never really understood his supporters or why they support him; hence why they've failed time and again to take him out.
Every round of polls suggest his supporter pool is drying up. He certainly knows how to jump up and down and so do his supporters. As for nothing sticking to him, as far as you're concerned. The data is suggesting most of the country is fed up with him. Keep selling it baby.


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Re: Impeachment

Post by bmw » Wed Sep 25, 2019 12:45 am

I've never suggested that the entire electorate supports him. His hardcore support group sits around 35% - I think that's a fairly accurate number. HOWEVER, I think it is also fair to point out that Trump's approval among republicans has been steady in the mid to high 80s for some time now. I think he has 40% of the electorate already wrapped up going into 2020.

Also, remember those never-Trump republicans who either sat home or even voted for Hillary in 2016? Guess what? Anybody on the left other than Biden pretty much scares the hell out of them. They'll vote for Trump in 2020. And even if Biden gets the nomination, he doesn't exactly excite the base.

Electorally, I see 2020 as virtually identical to 2016. At least 48 out of 50 states remain unchanged compared to 2016.



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