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Being pro-police

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Re: Being pro-police

Post by audiophile » Wed Dec 02, 2015 3:59 pm

There are some bad cops but without any cops there would be lots more, death, destruction and anarchy.

It's a fallin' world nothing is perfect...

Be smart - teach your children to respect authority and not pull knifes on them. I'm so sweet to cops they feel embarrassed they stopped me when when I'm done with them.

In the case you site that man was not going to jail willingly, he was going to fight to the end.


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Re: Being pro-police

Post by lovinlife101 » Wed Dec 02, 2015 4:28 pm

Interesting theory, but you're 100% wrong.

Fewer cops has resulted in less crime.

http://www.mlive.com/news/index.ssf/201 ... e_inv.html

Sorry to pull out facts on you. I'm sure you enjoy going with your gut, personal beliefs, and emotion on these things, but studying the issue is much more accurate.



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Re: Being pro-police

Post by lovinlife101 » Wed Dec 02, 2015 4:29 pm

Yes, it's a fallen world, but adding more fallen cops to the mix doesn't make it better.

You think these people are saints?



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Re: Being pro-police

Post by audiophile » Wed Dec 02, 2015 4:50 pm

Less crime or less crime because they don't have the manpower to log it?

Or maybe crime went down for other reasons, better economy, or gang members locked up, etc.

I had something stolen out-of town and their local sheriff wouldn't even write a report - they said turn it in to insurance.


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Re: Being pro-police

Post by NoozDude » Wed Dec 02, 2015 9:04 pm

lovinlife101 wrote:Interesting theory, but you're 100% wrong. Fewer cops has resulted in less crime. Sorry to pull out facts on you. I'm sure you enjoy going with your gut, personal beliefs, and emotion on these things, but studying the issue is much more accurate.
100% wrong????
More Police, Managed More Effectively, Really Can Reduce Crime. When a city applies moneyball methods to policing, it lowers the rate of offenses by an average of 10 percent.
source: Brennan Center for Justice at NYU School of Law.



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Re: Being pro-police

Post by DAC » Wed Dec 02, 2015 10:37 pm

This thread has nothing to do with Bill Harris. Everyone should learn the definition of the word "chigger" to summarize what is actually going on here.



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Re: Being pro-police

Post by audiophile » Thu Dec 03, 2015 6:49 am

Do we need some OFF with deet? :blink


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Re: Being pro-police

Post by craig11152 » Thu Dec 03, 2015 7:10 am

lovinlife101 wrote: Fewer cops has resulted in less crime.
Sorry to pull out facts on you. I'm sure you enjoy going with your gut, personal beliefs, and emotion on these things, but studying the issue is much more accurate.
Your the one going with your gut since the story you linked in NO WAY suggests or implies "Fewer cops has resulted in less crime." In fact the story says nobody is sure why crime is down despite fewer cops. There are some theories tossed out in the story....
There are theories for the decline, ranging from those that seem weird to those that ring true.
• Unleaded gasoline has reduced dangerous leaded emissions that made some children more impulsive and violent as they grew older.
• Legalization of abortion reduced the number of unwanted children who might have lower socio-economic success generations later.
• Children are living at home longer – with economic support – beyond their prime crime years.
• Better crime-mapping technology deploys patrols to high-risk areas. The explosion of cellphones leads to quicker calls for help. The proliferation of neighborhood watches deter crime.
Too old to outlaw?
There is no doubt Michigan is aging, as is much of the United Sates. The tidal wave of post-World War II children are now filing for Social Security. Birth rates since then have not come close to matching Baby Boomers.
But Boomers, for the most part, no longer commit crimes. That is a youth thing. And Michigan has fewer youths.
FBI reports have documented the median age for criminals is younger than 30 for most crimes.
Of Michigan’s 9.9 million people, about 3.9 million were under age 30. In the previous census, about 4.2 million were under 30.
More guns, less crime
Another factor must be considered. Michigan adults have more guns.
In 2001, Michigan made it much easier for residents to carry concealed handguns. Permits have risen ever since.
Last month, 405,408 adults could lawfully carry concealed handguns. That’s up from 53,000 after the first year of Michigan’s shall-issue law.
That means one in 17 adults 21 or older is licensed to carry. Countless more people have guns for sport and protection in their homes.
John Lott, an economist and national pro-firearms commenter, authored the book, “More Guns, Less Crime.”
”When you see the percent of the population with permits rising, and how Michigan has seen a very substantial increase over almost the same period of time (studied by MLive), you are looking at the fact that victims can defend themselves and also deter criminals, just as police can deter criminals,” Lott said.

NOTHING IN THE STORY YOU LINKED REMOTELY SUGGESTS YOUR CONCLUSION THAT " "Fewer cops has resulted in less crime."
I am concluding not only are you a cop hater but your just not very smart.


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Re: Being pro-police

Post by lovinlife101 » Thu Dec 03, 2015 8:33 am

Craig, buddy, it's "you're."

NoozDude, yes, I didn't stutter. 100% wrong. When the founding fathers came here, there was no police department. People took care of themselves and each other. It works much better than a police department. There was not "lots more, death, destruction and anarchy" as our friend audiophile put it. Yes, audiophile put "more" and then a comma. I didn't stutter there either.

DAC, keep your racist slurs to yourself.

Now make it a great day!



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Re: Being pro-police

Post by audiophile » Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:26 am

So were down to grammar and punctuation mistakes now? That's silly.


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Re: Being pro-police

Post by lovinlife101 » Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:42 am

Great idea! Let's start with the basics and then work our way up to more difficult skills!



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Re: Being pro-police

Post by lovinlife101 » Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:43 am

Oh, and it's "we're."

You're doing this on purpose now! :)



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Re: Being pro-police

Post by audiophile » Thu Dec 03, 2015 11:22 am

I had extra punctuation to use up!


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Re: Being pro-police

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Re: Being pro-police

Post by DAC » Thu Dec 03, 2015 6:39 pm

lovinlife101 wrote:Craig, buddy, it's "you're."

DAC, keep your racist slurs to yourself.

Now make it a great day!
Clearly you didn't look it up. A "Chigger" is a form of parasitic mite whose very existence and survival depends on it LITERALLY getting under someone skin.



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