If no one gets 270?

[Deleted User 8570]

The recounts, if they continue, will show how voter fraud in big cities accounts for those 2,000,000 Democrat votes and then some. They usually don't recount big cities because they carry many states and Democrats always win those states. This has been going on for years. The excuse was always that the big city precincts were so large, and it took longer to count the votes. But the precincts are really no larger, and many cities are declining in population in those older precincts. So that excuse for turning in the results late was probably never true. And a 95% turnout, or a 105% turnout is highly suspicious, when typical voter turnout is so much lower. Why this has not been investigated before is what should really be the issue. But if they don't stop the recounts all of this will be exposed. Trump would be proved right about the 2,000,000 votes. The people in denial are the ones that refused to see the anger about how the country is being run outside the cities. It was clear in Michigan. People just didn't want to talk about it for fear of being shouted down, beat up, or even murdered.

You aren't going to get those results from one or two states... try again.

[TC Shuts Up]

If "Jill Stein's" requests for recounts are allowed, Trump should request that California, New York, and other usually Democrat states be recounted. If completely investigated, Trump would be well on his way to the 2,000,000 fake Democrat vote totals he claims, if not over.

[Deleted User 8570]

If "Jill Stein's" requests for recounts are allowed, Trump should request that California, New York, and other usually Democrat states be recounted. If completely investigated, Trump would be well on his way to the 2,000,000 fake Democrat vote totals he claims, if not over.

No way... if anything the votes would be fake absentees, not falsely registers illegals which is impossible to pull off on that scale. Tune your tinfoil hat, we'll wait.

[Matt]

If "Jill Stein's" requests for recounts are allowed, Trump should request that California, New York, and other usually Democrat states be recounted. If completely investigated, Trump would be well on his way to the 2,000,000 fake Democrat vote totals he claims, if not over.

No way... if anything the votes would be fake absentees, not falsely registers illegals which is impossible to pull off on that scale. Tune your tinfoil hat, we'll wait.

IDs are not required in California or New York. If you exclude NYC, Hillary only won the rest of the state by 1,260. She won NYC by 1.5 million. http://www.redstate.com/setonmotley/201 ... -cronyism/

I'd venture to say there is probably a similar situation in California where big margins were run up in sanctuary cities like LA and the Bay Area. Its not as difficult to pull off widespread fraud in a concentrated area where there is no requirement to prove who you are.

[audiophile]

Without voter ID laws they wouldn't have an actual address or photo to verify if there was fraud.

[Deleted User 8570]

Without voter ID laws they wouldn't have an actual address or photo to verify if there was fraud.

The problem is justifying the ID laws based on fraud that doesn't exist.

[screen glare]

Matt - in your response to my last post on this thread what does could or should be "taken out" (your words) mean to you?

If - to you - those words of yours mean "could or should be murdered" then you have changed the meaning of my post - about which you opine as being "not smart".

My carefully chosen word "incapacitate" does not mean kill. Nor does my sentence about "execution" of the "plot" mean execution of a person.

[audiophile]

Without voter ID laws they wouldn't have an actual address or photo to verify if there was fraud.

The problem is justifying the ID laws based on fraud that doesn't exist.

If you bury your head in a bucket of sand, you'll never find anything either.

In the same way not requiring ID, gives you nothing to check against.

See no fraud, hear no fraud...

[Bryce]

A 2014 study in the online Electoral Studies Journal shows that in the 2008 and 2010 elections, illegal immigrant votes were in fact quite high.

"We find that some noncitizens participate in U.S. elections, and that this participation has been large enough to change meaningful election outcomes including Electoral College votes, and congressional elections," wrote Jesse T. Richman, Gulshan A. Chattha, both of Old Dominion University, and David C. Earnest of George Mason University.

More specifically, they write, "Noncitizen votes likely gave Senate Democrats the pivotal 60th vote needed to overcome filibusters in order to pass health care reform and other Obama administration priorities in the 111th Congress."

Specifically, the authors say that illegals may have cast as many as 2.8 million votes in 2008 and 2010. That's a lot of votes. And when you consider the population of illegal inhabitants has only grown since then, it's not unreasonable to suppose that their vote has, too.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/ar ... 9414000973

[Deleted User 8570]

A 2014 study in the online Electoral Studies Journal shows that in the 2008 and 2010 elections, illegal immigrant votes were in fact quite high.

"We find that some noncitizens participate in U.S. elections, and that this participation has been large enough to change meaningful election outcomes including Electoral College votes, and congressional elections," wrote Jesse T. Richman, Gulshan A. Chattha, both of Old Dominion University, and David C. Earnest of George Mason University.

More specifically, they write, "Noncitizen votes likely gave Senate Democrats the pivotal 60th vote needed to overcome filibusters in order to pass health care reform and other Obama administration priorities in the 111th Congress."

Specifically, the authors say that illegals may have cast as many as 2.8 million votes in 2008 and 2010. That's a lot of votes. And when you consider the population of illegal inhabitants has only grown since then, it's not unreasonable to suppose that their vote has, too.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/ar ... 9414000973

If that were true then in the 8 elections I worked I should have had to turn one person away for that... never one issue. Their argument is balderdash.

Best of all from their summary:

Voter photo-identification rules have limited effect on non-citizen participation.

The only way that could be true is if they really have no evidence and are bending over backwards to find some.