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RECOUNT in 3 SWING STATES - HERE WE GO!

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Re: RECOUNT in 3 SWING STATES - HERE WE GO!

Post by Bryce » Fri Dec 02, 2016 1:27 pm

Turkeytop wrote:
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NS8401 wrote: You act like every liberal has a copy of those rules or something... I've never read nor seen them... it really hurts your argument to quote rules nobody knows or cares about...
I said "far left". I don't consider you far left.

Can't get much farther left than me. And I've never heard of rule #5.

Now that you've made me aware of it, I may want to start using it. :lol
Might as well read them all...

Our current CIC was a deciple.

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New York and Chicago were all in with respect to their sanctuary status — until they were hit with the challenge of actually providing sanctuary. In other words, typical liberal hypocrisy.

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Post by Turkeytop » Fri Dec 02, 2016 1:57 pm

But your current CIC isn't far left. He's far right. From the day he was first elected, at the depth of the financial crisis, he surrounded himself with Wall St, sharpies. Those he didn't have jobs for, he rewarded with generous bailouts.
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Post by Bryce » Fri Dec 02, 2016 2:16 pm

Turkeytop wrote:Those he didn't have jobs for, he rewarded with generous bailouts.
You mean like the UAW?

Bailouts are certianly not capitalist or in line with the principles of a free market.

Any time a government body picks winners and loosers, who to support and who not too, it is more along the lines of socialism.
New York and Chicago were all in with respect to their sanctuary status — until they were hit with the challenge of actually providing sanctuary. In other words, typical liberal hypocrisy.

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Post by Turkeytop » Fri Dec 02, 2016 4:53 pm

Bryce wrote:
Turkeytop wrote:Those he didn't have jobs for, he rewarded with generous bailouts.
You mean like the UAW?

Bailouts are certianly not capitalist or in line with the principles of a free market.

Any time a government body picks winners and loosers, who to support and who not too, it is more along the lines of socialism.

He didn't bail out UAW. He bailed out GM, Chrysler, the big banks and big insurance. Bailing out corrupt and incompetent Capitalists is not part of any Socialist agenda.
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Post by Bryce » Fri Dec 02, 2016 5:30 pm

Turkeytop wrote:
Bryce wrote:
Turkeytop wrote:Those he didn't have jobs for, he rewarded with generous bailouts.
You mean like the UAW?

Bailouts are certianly not capitalist or in line with the principles of a free market.

Any time a government body picks winners and loosers, who to support and who not too, it is more along the lines of socialism.

He didn't bail out UAW. He bailed out GM, Chrysler, the big banks and big insurance. Bailing out corrupt and incompetent Capitalists is not part of any Socialist agenda.
TT, what you contend isn't correct at all. The MAIN reason GM and Chrysler were "bailed out" with the deal Obama made was to save UAW jobs and contracts. If both were allowed to file bankruptcy, neither would have ceased to exist but would have emerged as new companies. Leaner and meaner. However had that happened neither would have been bound by existing UAW contracts.

Free market capitalism, as Mitt Romney suggested, to much chagrin, would have let both companies fail.

Answer this. How did bond holders, normally the first in line when their is a bankruptcy, end up with little or nothing and the UAW half of the company?

Sorry this kind of got off topic.
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Post by Turkeytop » Fri Dec 02, 2016 6:11 pm

Strange. If UAW viewed Obama as their savior, why did they elect Trump in MI?
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Post by zzand » Sat Dec 03, 2016 6:13 am

I think the answer to why he won Michigan might be the same as to why he won overall. In talking to people who voted for him, both Republican and Democrats who crossed over, most said, among other things, they no longer trusted politicians and Trump is an outsider never having held office before. Also his populist message appealed to the Fly Over States who have been largely ignored by everyone for years.

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Post by audiophile » Sat Dec 03, 2016 6:22 am

Turkeytop wrote:Strange. If UAW viewed Obama as their savior, why did they elect Trump in MI?
Clinton signed NAFTA. Obama signed bail out.
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Post by Calvert DeForest » Sat Dec 03, 2016 8:55 am

audiophile wrote:Clinton signed NAFTA. Obama signed bail out.
To be fair, both Clinton and Bush 41 stated during the 1992 campaign that they would sign NAFTA if it crossed their desk. Ross Perot was the one who raised the warning flag.

That's why I say it's when the Democrats and Republicans agree that we need to watch out.

A GOP Congress passed the Telecommunications Act of 1996. A Democrat Chief Executive signed it. 'Nuff said about that! :razz
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Post by Deleted User 8570 » Sat Dec 03, 2016 9:46 am

Calvert DeForest wrote:
audiophile wrote:Clinton signed NAFTA. Obama signed bail out.
To be fair, both Clinton and Bush 41 stated during the 1992 campaign that they would sign NAFTA if it crossed their desk. Ross Perot was the one who raised the warning flag.

That's why I say it's when the Democrats and Republicans agree that we need to watch out.

A GOP Congress passed the Telecommunications Act of 1996. A Democrat Chief Executive signed it. 'Nuff said about that! :razz
So compromise is the warning sign?

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Post by audiophile » Sat Dec 03, 2016 9:58 am

Sometimes.

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Post by Calvert DeForest » Sat Dec 03, 2016 10:09 am

NS8401 wrote:
Calvert DeForest wrote:
audiophile wrote:Clinton signed NAFTA. Obama signed bail out.
To be fair, both Clinton and Bush 41 stated during the 1992 campaign that they would sign NAFTA if it crossed their desk. Ross Perot was the one who raised the warning flag.

That's why I say it's when the Democrats and Republicans agree that we need to watch out.

A GOP Congress passed the Telecommunications Act of 1996. A Democrat Chief Executive signed it. 'Nuff said about that! :razz
So compromise is the warning sign?
Compromise is a good thing as long as it's in the people's best interest.

Besides, the two aforementioned examples were really no compromise, as majorities on both sides determined their positions from the outset. It just so happens they were in agreement.
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Post by audiophile » Sat Dec 03, 2016 8:18 pm

PA recount dropped...

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/ ... nnsylvania

Boys - it's over...
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Post by Deleted User 8570 » Sat Dec 03, 2016 9:44 pm

audiophile wrote:PA recount dropped...

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/ ... nnsylvania

Boys - it's over...
Did it really ever start?

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Post by Matt » Sun Dec 04, 2016 6:51 am

audiophile wrote:PA recount dropped...

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/ ... nnsylvania

Boys - it's over...
So, she will be returning all the money she raised from this sham, right? Oh...
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