RECOUNT in 3 SWING STATES - HERE WE GO!

[Bryce]

Now they are going to the federal court system.

This whole effort is nothing but an attempt to delay certification in three states to deny T Rump the electoral votes in time.

Notice how there isn't a recount effort in New Hampshire? HilLIEr y won by about 3000 votes. Pretty slim margin. Fraud could ha e a big impact on 3000 votes. This isn't about voter fraud, its an effort to make the T Rump presidency look less than legitimate.

[audiophile]

PA recount dropped...

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/ ... nnsylvania

Boys - it's over...

So, she will be returning all the money she raised from this sham, right? Oh...

Remember - They are the Green party...

[Deleted User 8570]

Now they are going to the federal court system.

This whole effort is nothing but an attempt to delay certification in three states to deny T Rump the electoral votes in time.

Notice how there isn't a recount effort in New Hampshire? HilLIEr y won by about 3000 votes. Pretty slim margin. Fraud could ha e a big impact on 3000 votes. This isn't about voter fraud, its an effort to make the T Rump presidency look less than legitimate.

If the recounts aren't done in time then the electors vote and it's over. That's why the Republicans are challenging in Michigan and Wisconsin... if they tie it in knots then there will be no recount.

Again for the hundredth time... the people who originally suggested AUDITS were only looking to eliminate the very remote possibility of fraud via electronic means. They NEVER called for RECOUNTS in these states which are a different thing. Stein & co. are the ones who started the recount mess after hijacking the audit idea.

Oh and no... there is not voter fraud up in New Hampshire either.

[Turkeytop]

Those he didn't have jobs for, he rewarded with generous bailouts.

Bailouts are certianly not capitalist or in line with the principles of a free market.

Any time a government body picks winners and loosers, who to support and who not too, it is more along the lines of socialism.

There's no logic in your argument, Bryce. As socialists, our goal is the destruction of capitalism. When it starts to self destruct all on its own, why would we use public money to prop it up?

Those bailouts were merely capitalist greed sucking on the public tit.

[Bryce]

Those he didn't have jobs for, he rewarded with generous bailouts.

Bailouts are certianly not capitalist or in line with the principles of a free market.

Any time a government body picks winners and loosers, who to support and who not too, it more along the lines of socialism.

There's no logic in your argument, Bryce. As socialists, our goal is the destruction of capitalism. When it starts to self destruct all on its own, why would we use public money to prop it up?

Those bailouts were merely capitalist greed sucking on the public tit.

The Carrier deal may not be "socialist" in nature, but it certainly is not in line with the principles of free market capitalism. Corporate welfare or crony capitalism, which happens often in a socialist setting, may be the correct terms.

[Deleted User 8570]

Those he didn't have jobs for, he rewarded with generous bailouts.

Bailouts are certianly not capitalist or in line with the principles of a free market.

Any time a government body picks winners and loosers, who to support and who not too, it more along the lines of socialism.

There's no logic in your argument, Bryce. As socialists, our goal is the destruction of capitalism. When it starts to self destruct all on its own, why would we use public money to prop it up?

Those bailouts were merely capitalist greed sucking on the public tit.

The Carrier deal may not be "socialist" in nature, but it certainly is not in line with the principles of free market capitalism. Corporate welfare or crony capitalism, which happens often in a socialist setting, may be the correct terms.

Anybody including a company, the rich, the poor, everybody in between and a small business owner too wants free shit... that's a law of the universe. We've never had true fully free markets... you really can't... it's as unrealistic as communists on the exact opposite end of the scale.

[Matt]

Having a civil discourse is impossible when those engaged just rant and rave and make bizarre and misleading accusations. That's what has been happening since the election began and it continues on this board.

For those people who actually blame Donald Trump for the actions of others is pathetic and ignorant. That's like blaming President Obama for Police officers getting shot and killed. Exactly the same.

The rhetoric is out of hand because people refuse to look at both sides. In the case of this election, it's ridiculous that democrats refuse to move on. First they tried rioting, then they tried to get states to change their electoral college votes, then they sent out a petition on moveon.org to change the winner of the election to the person with the popular vote,... now they're getting a recount... when every single report out there says there is no evidence of hacking or tampering.

This out of hand poor sport/sore loser syndrome is out of control. But it's ok for Democrats because they're entitled to whatever they want, right? Apparently.

The Green Party has distanced itself from Jill Stein. Even they agree this is ridiculous.

Remember (not that you care) that what sparked this was a call on the part of some academics for AUDITS (very different than a recount) to ensure things didn't get messed with because they noticed some very odd results in some rural precincts... they never called for a recount. Stein & Co. took it upon themselves to hijack the thing.

Come on, you don't really believe that bullshit. Stein is an actor on behalf of the Clinton campaign. This dipshit (https://jhalderm.com/) and his cronies contacted the Clinton campaign and asked them to challenge the results in ONLY states that the old hag lost. In Michigan, you have "Stein" lawyer Mark Brewer as her lead counsel. He was MDP Chairmen from 1995-2013. If you believe the individuals were just interested in an audit, I have some ocean-front property in Arizona. Are you interested?

[Deleted User 8570]

Having a civil discourse is impossible when those engaged just rant and rave and make bizarre and misleading accusations. That's what has been happening since the election began and it continues on this board.

For those people who actually blame Donald Trump for the actions of others is pathetic and ignorant. That's like blaming President Obama for Police officers getting shot and killed. Exactly the same.

The rhetoric is out of hand because people refuse to look at both sides. In the case of this election, it's ridiculous that democrats refuse to move on. First they tried rioting, then they tried to get states to change their electoral college votes, then they sent out a petition on moveon.org to change the winner of the election to the person with the popular vote,... now they're getting a recount... when every single report out there says there is no evidence of hacking or tampering.

This out of hand poor sport/sore loser syndrome is out of control. But it's ok for Democrats because they're entitled to whatever they want, right? Apparently.

The Green Party has distanced itself from Jill Stein. Even they agree this is ridiculous.

Remember (not that you care) that what sparked this was a call on the part of some academics for AUDITS (very different than a recount) to ensure things didn't get messed with because they noticed some very odd results in some rural precincts... they never called for a recount. Stein & Co. took it upon themselves to hijack the thing.

Come on, you don't really believe that bullshit. Stein is an actor on behalf of the Clinton campaign. This dipshit (https://jhalderm.com/) and his cronies contacted the Clinton campaign and asked them to challenge the results in ONLY states that the old hag lost. In Michigan, you have "Stein" lawyer Mark Brewer as her lead counsel. He was MDP Chairmen from 1995-2013. If you believe the individuals were just interested in an audit, I have some ocean-front property in Arizona. Are you interested?

2 calls for an audit and one for a recount... I'll sell you that property back and throw in a desert in Hawaii...

[Deleted User 8570]

Federal judge just lifted the restraining order and the recount is DOA.

[Matt]

Federal judge just lifted the restraining order and the recount is DOA.

It never should have started. Stein had no ground to stand on. Again, it is interesting how none of the new stories indicated that Mark Brewer ran the state democrat party for nearly two decades...

[audiophile]

It was a waste of time - a pie in the sky ploy for Hillary.

[Calvert DeForest]

The Carrier deal may not be "socialist" in nature, but it certainly is not in line with the principles of free market capitalism. Corporate welfare or crony capitalism, which happens often in a socialist setting, may be the correct terms.

Wait....you're saying that Trump may not be 100% adherent to the principles of free-market capitalism? Now there's a shocker!

Really, when it comes down to it, I see no difference between the Democrats and Republicans when it comes to corporate welfare. The 2008-09 bailouts began under the Bush administration, and were thrown into overdrive by the Obama administration. Obama is merely Bush on steroids.

Mr. Trump should be fairly familiar with the concept of corporate welfare. He has benefited from it a time or two.

[Bryce]

[Deleted User 8570]

Dear god...

[Calvert DeForest]

Dear god...

....but enough about how the president-elect prefers to be addressed.