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Two Cops Shot At Dallas Protest

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Re: Two Cops Shot At Dallas Protest

Post by Bryce » Sat Jul 09, 2016 9:43 am

audiophile wrote:It's a disgrace what Obama and the Minnesota governor are saying.
Don't forget Lynch.
“Americans across our county are feeling a sense of helplessness, of uncertainty and of fear,” Lynch said. “And these feelings are understandable, and they are justified.
Make no mistake about it, the feeling of unrest felt in certain quarters has been stoked the past few years by Obama, Holder and Lynch. Police agencies across America find themselves under investigation by the Justice Department which sends a message that they are doing something wrong. Comments are made that are designed to foment unease instead of calm. Black Lives Matter, a group founded based upon a lie, has been embraced by the left and pretty much goes unchallenged by the MSM.

As an example from the POTUS himself...

These statements came just 12 hours prior to the tragedy in Dallas.
But what I can say is that all of us as Americans should be troubled by these shootings, because these are not isolated incidents. They’re symptomatic of a broader set of racial disparities that exist in our criminal justice system.

According to various studies — not just one, but a wide range of studies that have been carried out over a number of years — African Americans are 30 percent more likely than whites to be pulled over. After being pulled over, African Americans and Hispanics are three times more likely to be searched. Last year, African Americans were shot by police at more than twice the rate of whites.
He pretty much just told everyone that he thinks the criminal justice system is racist. That should calm everyone down huh? While some of these statistics are true, they are taken without proper context and create unrest rather than calm.

Fact:

According to data compiled by The Washington Post, 50 percent of the victims of fatal police shootings were white, while 26 percent were black. The majority of these victims had a gun or "were armed or otherwise threatening the officer with potentially lethal force."

Now, you might say, "Wait a minute, Blacks make up only 12 percent of the population so this shows that there is a racial disparity."

Fact:
In the 75 largest counties in the U.S., (according to statistics from the Bureau of Justice) Blacks committed 62 percent of the robberies, 57 percent of the murders and 45 percent of assaults while comprising only 15 percent of the population in those counties.

Police work is data driven. They patrol and respond to the crime in high crime areas. Because a lot crime is taking place in minority communities, there are a disproportionate number of police/citizen contacts in high pressure/violent situations.

If police departments were REALLY racist, they would stay the hell out of the high crime minority areas where they are in danger and concentrate on handing out tickets in the high income areas. Instead they risk life and injury to try and provide a better place for the good people that live in those areas.


New York and Chicago were all in with respect to their sanctuary status — until they were hit with the challenge of actually providing sanctuary. In other words, typical liberal hypocrisy.

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Re: Two Cops Shot At Dallas Protest

Post by audiophile » Sat Jul 09, 2016 10:51 am

Obama has used the bully pulpit to aggravate racial tensions, not improve them. Unfortunately the republican presumptive is not doing any better with that same issue.


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Re: Two Cops Shot At Dallas Protest

Post by TC Shuts Up » Sat Jul 09, 2016 11:32 am

It's becoming more and more obvious that this is planned rabble rousing based on false stories. Already, the Minnesota "tail light stop" story is falling completely apart. You can't confront the police and look like you are pulling a weapon without the police defending themselves. The only other alternative is for police to regard some neighborhoods as "no go zones", and let Chicago style constant shootouts to occur. Note that guns are not legal in Chicago.

http://gotnews.com/blackliesmatter-phil ... d-kid-car/

I had a friend who was dating for the second time a policeman who she had previously dated in college and when they broke up the second time, the police guy was avoiding her. She said she was going to go to the police station and confront him. I advised her against doing that because you just don't want to go to the police station and "confront" an armed policeman. What if they were arguing in the parking lot and another policeman saw it thought she was threatening him? Both were white. It just might not end well.


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Re: Two Cops Shot At Dallas Protest

Post by Bryce » Sat Jul 09, 2016 12:18 pm

TC Shuts Up wrote:It's becoming more and more obvious that this is planned rabble rousing based on false stories. Already, the Minnesota "tail light stop" story is falling completely apart. el.
this breaks down the false narrative even further.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/20 ... -shooting/

Again, Obama felt the.need to weigh in without all the facts and presumed that the police we're at fault.


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Re: Two Cops Shot At Dallas Protest

Post by Matt » Sat Jul 09, 2016 12:20 pm

Here's a good summary of responses: http://www.redstate.com/absentee/2016/0 ... -shooting/


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Re: Two Cops Shot At Dallas Protest

Post by Bryce » Sat Jul 09, 2016 1:12 pm

Matt wrote:Here's a good summary of responses: http://www.redstate.com/absentee/2016/0 ... -shooting/
Yup, par for the course. In Dallas, access to guns are the problem he (Obama) touches on. In MN, it's systemic racism on the part of the police. Even though the Dallas incident was the one in which the stated purpose of the murders were tied directly to the victims race.

Here's a good question. How did the Dallas sniper know where to set up? Who knew in advance where the protest was going to take place?


New York and Chicago were all in with respect to their sanctuary status — until they were hit with the challenge of actually providing sanctuary. In other words, typical liberal hypocrisy.

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Re: Two Cops Shot At Dallas Protest

Post by Deleted User 8570 » Sat Jul 09, 2016 1:38 pm

Bryce wrote:
Matt wrote:Here's a good summary of responses: http://www.redstate.com/absentee/2016/0 ... -shooting/
Yup, par for the course. In Dallas, access to guns are the problem he (Obama) touches on. In MN, it's systemic racism on the part of the police. Even though the Dallas incident was the one in which the stated purpose of the murders were tied directly to the victims race.

Here's a good question. How did the Dallas sniper know where to set up? Who knew in advance where the protest was going to take place?
Would it be terribly hard to walk 3 buildings over from the protest, go up in the parking garage and shoot at the police? Not at all. It's not exactly hard to figure out the route of a slow moving March or anything....



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Re: Two Cops Shot At Dallas Protest

Post by TC Shuts Up » Sat Jul 09, 2016 8:04 pm

Alton Sterling also had a long rap sheet dating back to 1996 when he was a juvenile. It is pretty obvious that he was never rehabilitated. There are many many arrests and convictions. There is probably a lot more to the circumstances of the arrest than has been reported. There almost always is. People who commented and reported without all the facts have to bear some responsibility for the murders and violence that has happened in Dallas and elsewhere since. Reporters are way too anxious to report without all the facts. Politicians are also way too anxious to inflame people without all the facts.

http://heavy.com/news/2016/07/alton-ste ... ook-watch/
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Re: Two Cops Shot At Dallas Protest

Post by Bryce » Sat Jul 09, 2016 9:31 pm

NS8401 wrote: Would it be terribly hard to walk 3 buildings over from the protest, go up in the parking garage and shoot at the police? Not at all. It's not exactly hard to figure out the route of a slow moving March or anything....
Been to Dallas lately? It's a BIG city. I also don't think it's too easy to saunter over while having a military type rifle.


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Re: Two Cops Shot At Dallas Protest

Post by Turkeytop » Sat Jul 09, 2016 9:39 pm

Bryce wrote: I also don't think it's too easy to saunter over while having a military type rifle.
In Dallas, that probably wouldn't attract much attention.


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Re: Two Cops Shot At Dallas Protest

Post by Bryce » Sat Jul 09, 2016 9:46 pm

Turkeytop wrote:
Bryce wrote: I also don't think it's too easy to saunter over while having a military type rifle.
In Dallas, that probably wouldn't attract much attention.
Well, all cops are racist don't you know? If a black man was seen walking around with a SKS, (what was actually used regardless of media reports) wouldn't he be shot on site?


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Re: Two Cops Shot At Dallas Protest

Post by Deleted User 8570 » Sat Jul 09, 2016 9:49 pm

Bryce wrote:
NS8401 wrote: Would it be terribly hard to walk 3 buildings over from the protest, go up in the parking garage and shoot at the police? Not at all. It's not exactly hard to figure out the route of a slow moving March or anything....
Been to Dallas lately? It's a BIG city. I also don't think it's too easy to saunter over while having a military type rifle.
It's also possible that information was readily available and he simply asked "where are you guys gonna be?"... There's no voodoo rocket science to it...



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Re: Two Cops Shot At Dallas Protest

Post by Bryce » Sat Jul 09, 2016 9:54 pm

NS8401 wrote: It's also possible that information was readily available and he simply asked "where are you guys gonna be?"... There's no voodoo rocket science to it...
Show me where that information was readily available please. I've looked long and hard on this here web thingy and can find nary a mention.


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Re: Two Cops Shot At Dallas Protest

Post by Deleted User 8570 » Sat Jul 09, 2016 11:25 pm

Bryce wrote:
NS8401 wrote: It's also possible that information was readily available and he simply asked "where are you guys gonna be?"... There's no voodoo rocket science to it...
Show me where that information was readily available please. I've looked long and hard on this here web thingy and can find nary a mention.
I'm speaking of say Facebook... A H*** crowd had to know about it somehow...



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Re: Two Cops Shot At Dallas Protest

Post by kager » Mon Jul 11, 2016 5:54 pm

Sure seems like Old Glory is flying half-staff alot these days...


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