I miss Governor Engler

[MWmetalhead]

He's 100% correct on the topic of Detroit schools.

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/p ... /85319898/

[Deleted User 8570]

He's 100% correct on the topic of Detroit schools.

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/p ... /85319898/

Engler was a really weird guy and rather poor governor...

[TC Talks]

John Engler is largely responsible for the deterioration of our public schools, and why our welfare system is too expensive for the service it provides. He encumbered both state departments with poisonous policy and self destructive statutes. I suspect that you can direct much of the the state's disfunction to his term in office.

He also owns a private online education company with Dick DeVos. He would like to dismantle public education.


http://stateofopportunity.michiganradio ... have-today

[audiophile]

The Engler win was a surprise to almost everyone, and he was better than his successors, Granholm and Snyder.

Engler was 1000% better than his predecessor, gimme Jimmy!

He returned the rights to parents to decide on a child's education in 1993, when he was governor. His work on Charter schools and school funding reform is one of his best accomplishments despite TCT's statement. http://www.thecenterforcharters.org/mod ... pmenu_id=3

[audiophile]

And this historic struggle is partly why Detroit Schools still stink:

https://www.mackinac.org/5811

[bixpchiphead]

I miss Governor Milliken!

[audiophile]

Rino!

Milliken supported taxpayer-funded abortions and vetoed the effort to stop it multiple times. He was a big government, big spender too.

[TC Talks]

RINO because he supports women's reproductive rights? I think the complete significant failure of all the Pro Life Republican candidates demonstrates this is a niche issue and the Christian right isn't the political force they think they are. They also lost their activist SCOTUS member. Maybe God is sending a message about how to behave.

Milliken found ways to bridge issues. It's the best example of leadership this state has seen in 100 years.

[audiophile]

My statement above had nothing do with so-called "reproductive rights" - but only the taxpayer funding of elective abortions.

If it wasn't for Tisch and Headlee knocking some sense into into Milliken with their taxpayer revolt, he would been the worst governor ever.

[Deleted User 8570]

The Engler win was a surprise to almost everyone, and he was better than his successors, Granholm and Snyder.

Engler was 1000% better than his predecessor, gimme Jimmy!

He returned the rights to parents to decide on a child's education in 1993, when he was governor. His work on Charter schools and school funding reform is one of his best accomplishments despite TCT's statement. http://www.thecenterforcharters.org/mod ... pmenu_id=3

Charter schools suffer from a lack of oversight and unqualified teachers while underperforming districts still depend on a student count based funding model that is cut off at the knees because the students leave and the districts suffer. This is good how?

The whole charter schools thing was a bid to bust unions and make a buck, not some bs about an alternative to public schools...

Will you guys ever learn that the good stuff you remember is powered by everything you rail against and try to dismantle? The system was fine until they started screwing with it and trying to privatize everything. That goes to everything... It was governmental for a reason....

[audiophile]

Why is there a waiting list a mile long on most of them? We tried to get in the one by us, way in advance, and we didn't make it.

Don't you drive a bus for public school?

[Deleted User 8570]

Why is there a waiting list a mile long on most of them? We tried to get in the one by us, way in advance, and we didn't make it.

Don't you drive a bus for public school?

Yes I do... But for a private contractor... Not all bad but certainly not nearly what it was when the district had it... It's been gutted essentially... It's not run any better as a result or anything...