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Post by MWmetalhead » Wed May 20, 2015 9:15 pm

Bush's campaign is far from being in trouble. Still very early, the real campaigning hasn't begun yet, and the debate stage will ultimately separate the men from the boys.

I also refuse to accept the narrative that Hillary Clinton is some sort of invincible, unbeatable candidate. She isn't. Everyone seems to forget that she got her ass kicked in the Dem primaries by Obama back in '08.

I do not know how a shaky tenure as Sec'y of State helps her cause.


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Post by Bryce » Wed May 20, 2015 9:32 pm

FWIW...

I think Scott Walker handled the question beautifully.
Any president would have likely taken the same action [President George W.] Bush did with the information he had, even Hillary Clinton voted for it, but knowing what we know now, we should not have gone into Iraq. President Bush deserves enormous credit for ordering the surge, a courageous move that worked. Unfortunately, President Obama and Secretary Clinton hastily withdrew our troops, threw away the gains of the surge, and embarked on a broader policy of pivoting away from the Middle East and leading from behind that has created chaos in the region.


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Post by Deleted User 8570 » Wed May 20, 2015 9:35 pm

Bryce wrote:FWIW...

I think Scott Walker handled the question beautifully.
Any president would have likely taken the same action [President George W.] Bush did with the information he had, even Hillary Clinton voted for it, but knowing what we know now, we should not have gone into Iraq. President Bush deserves enormous credit for ordering the surge, a courageous move that worked. Unfortunately, President Obama and Secretary Clinton hastily withdrew our troops, threw away the gains of the surge, and embarked on a broader policy of pivoting away from the Middle East and leading from behind that has created chaos in the region.
When prey-tell would said surge have ended had we kept it going? It isn't as though we were gonna occupy it forever... we'd have to have done that to prevent what's happening now...



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Post by Bryce » Wed May 20, 2015 9:40 pm

NS8401 wrote:
When prey-tell would said surge have ended had we kept it going? It isn't as though we were gonna occupy it forever... we'd have to have done that to prevent what's happening now...
How long have we maintained military presence in Japan? Germany? South Korea? Kuwait?

ALL of the top military advisers cautioned against pulling out of Iraq the way we did. Obama choose to ignore them. Purely a political move and we and the rest of the world are paying the price now.

You just can't "win" a war and then leave. It just doesn't work that way.


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Post by audiophile » Wed May 20, 2015 9:44 pm

Walker did well on that answer.

A new poll came out yesterday showed Bush was in he lead (leading in being underwater).


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Post by Deleted User 8570 » Wed May 20, 2015 9:54 pm

Bryce wrote:
NS8401 wrote:
When prey-tell would said surge have ended had we kept it going? It isn't as though we were gonna occupy it forever... we'd have to have done that to prevent what's happening now...
How long have we maintained military presence in Japan? Germany? South Korea? Kuwait?

ALL of the top military advisers cautioned against pulling out of Iraq the way we did. Obama choose to ignore them. Purely a political move and we and the rest of the world are paying the price now.

You just can't "win" a war and then leave. It just doesn't work that way.
Then it gets into a "why do we need to be the worlds police?" type of question with a sideline on "Why are we going into wars in places we have no intention of ever leaving?"



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Post by audiophile » Thu May 21, 2015 6:34 pm

Not only world police, but also unwarranted snoopers.

Putin = KGB...Bush = CIA

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/4 ... oel-gehrke


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