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Re: “Play it down” idiot tRump Knew Dangers of Covid, Still Downplayed it

Post by Rate This » Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:50 pm

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He blatantly lied to the American people about the severity of what will be the greatest health threat of our lifetime. “
No, the leftists and Marxist theology is the greatest threat to the health and well being of our lifetime. Yet, the majority of Democrats seem to support it.
Estimates may vary, but communism is responsible for the deaths of up to 100 million people, perhaps more. From Josef Stalin’s “Great Purge” and the Holodomor to Mao Zedong’s famines to Pol Pot’s killing fields, the legacy of Marx is one of death.
What the Democrats have been proposing even Europeans would find far too conservative to be socialism.



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Re: “Play it down” idiot tRump Knew Dangers of Covid, Still Downplayed it

Post by Honeyman » Thu Sep 10, 2020 1:05 pm

This from another website: Throughout history, presidents responded to moments of great trial by leveling with the American people about often-dire challenges, but also summoned a collective sense of mission toward a less perilous destination.

Twice, in the 1930s Great Depression and after Japan attacked Pearl Harbor in 1941, a Democrat, Franklin Roosevelt, told the country the truth, and it listened and followed. On another day of infamy -- 19 years ago on Friday -- a Republican, George W. Bush, consoled and united a people violated by a shocking act of terrorism on 9/11.

When Trump's time came -- in February -- we now know that he perfectly understood the pernicious nature of the threat posed by the novel coronavirus. But while he told Woodward in a phone call "this is deadly stuff" and that the pathogen caused a viciously contagious illness much worse than the flu, Trump didn't level with the American people. In fact, he deliberately misled them and failed to prepare the government for a vast national effort. Worse, for weeks he continued to misinform the country about the severity of the pathogen that caused the worst global pandemic in 100 years.

The 190,000 American families who lost loved ones and could never say goodbye, the millions of unemployed, the business owners who went bust, a generation of kids who haven't been in class for months and everyone else self-distanced from their regular lives now face the same question: How different would things have been had the President done his job properly?
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Re: “Play it down” idiot tRump Knew Dangers of Covid, Still Downplayed it

Post by km1125 » Thu Sep 10, 2020 1:26 pm

The Klan meeting just got done. You guys missed some impressive stuff. Let me know if you want to know when the next one is.

That said....

It was a bit before my time, but did JFK going running around the country screaming about nukes in Cuba when the "October Suprise" happened in 1962? If there was ever a threat to the health of our citizens, it would have been a nuclear confrontation. The White House publicly denied all the activity all the way up to the obvious, until it was an actual crisis.

Should Kennedy have gone running around the country telling folks to prepare to nuclear war??

Back to the future, if TRUMP was running around telling everyone how bad this virus is, what do you think would happen in the major cities, at the grocery stores and at the gun stores? They were already overwhelmed as it was, with the "downplaying", but they would have been decimated. There would have been riots raiding stores for any available food. Liquor stores would have been cleaned out (probably after hours and through a broken door or window).

And the press would have CRUCIFIED him, as NONE of the "experts" advising him were saying it was that bad. Do you remember what FOUCI was saying in those early days? HE is supposed to be the foremost expert advising the President.

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Re: “Play it down” idiot tRump Knew Dangers of Covid, Still Downplayed it

Post by Turkeytop » Thu Sep 10, 2020 1:35 pm

km1125 wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 1:26 pm
The Klan meeting just got done. You guys missed some impressive stuff. Let me know if you want to know when the next one is.

That said....

It was a bit before my time, but did JFK going running around the country screaming about nukes in Cuba when the "October Suprise" happened in 1962? If there was ever a threat to the health of our citizens, it would have been a nuclear confrontation. The White House publicly denied all the activity all the way up to the obvious, until it was an actual crisis.

Should Kennedy have gone running around the country telling folks to prepare to nuclear war??

Back to the future, if TRUMP was running around telling everyone how bad this virus is, what do you think would happen in the major cities, at the grocery stores and at the gun stores? They were already overwhelmed as it was, with the "downplaying", but they would have been decimated. There would have been riots raiding stores for any available food. Liquor stores would have been cleaned out (probably after hours and through a broken door or window).

And the press would have CRUCIFIED him, as NONE of the "experts" advising him were saying it was that bad. Do you remember what FOUCI was saying in those early days? HE is supposed to be the foremost expert advising the President.

I was around at that time and, yes, Kennedy did level with the people. we all knew what was going on. The Voice of America told the whole world what was happening. He didn't engage in happy talk. He didn't call it a hoax. He didn't say the missiles would disappear like magic.

Had us all holding our breath for a few days.
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Re: “Play it down” idiot tRump Knew Dangers of Covid, Still Downplayed it

Post by km1125 » Thu Sep 10, 2020 1:54 pm

Turkeytop wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 1:35 pm
km1125 wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 1:26 pm
The Klan meeting just got done. You guys missed some impressive stuff. Let me know if you want to know when the next one is.

That said....

It was a bit before my time, but did JFK going running around the country screaming about nukes in Cuba when the "October Suprise" happened in 1962? If there was ever a threat to the health of our citizens, it would have been a nuclear confrontation. The White House publicly denied all the activity all the way up to the obvious, until it was an actual crisis.

Should Kennedy have gone running around the country telling folks to prepare to nuclear war??

Back to the future, if TRUMP was running around telling everyone how bad this virus is, what do you think would happen in the major cities, at the grocery stores and at the gun stores? They were already overwhelmed as it was, with the "downplaying", but they would have been decimated. There would have been riots raiding stores for any available food. Liquor stores would have been cleaned out (probably after hours and through a broken door or window).

And the press would have CRUCIFIED him, as NONE of the "experts" advising him were saying it was that bad. Do you remember what FOUCI was saying in those early days? HE is supposed to be the foremost expert advising the President.

I was around at that time and, yes, Kennedy did level with the people. we all knew what was going on. The Voice of America told the whole world what was happening. He didn't engage in happy talk. He didn't call it a hoax. He didn't say the missiles would disappear like magic.

Had us all holding our breath for a few days.
A few days? It had been going on for well over a YEAR!! You probably had your head in the sand, much like you do now.

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Re: “Play it down” idiot tRump Knew Dangers of Covid, Still Downplayed it

Post by Rate This » Thu Sep 10, 2020 2:18 pm

km1125 wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 1:54 pm
Turkeytop wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 1:35 pm
km1125 wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 1:26 pm
The Klan meeting just got done. You guys missed some impressive stuff. Let me know if you want to know when the next one is.

That said....

It was a bit before my time, but did JFK going running around the country screaming about nukes in Cuba when the "October Suprise" happened in 1962? If there was ever a threat to the health of our citizens, it would have been a nuclear confrontation. The White House publicly denied all the activity all the way up to the obvious, until it was an actual crisis.

Should Kennedy have gone running around the country telling folks to prepare to nuclear war??

Back to the future, if TRUMP was running around telling everyone how bad this virus is, what do you think would happen in the major cities, at the grocery stores and at the gun stores? They were already overwhelmed as it was, with the "downplaying", but they would have been decimated. There would have been riots raiding stores for any available food. Liquor stores would have been cleaned out (probably after hours and through a broken door or window).

And the press would have CRUCIFIED him, as NONE of the "experts" advising him were saying it was that bad. Do you remember what FOUCI was saying in those early days? HE is supposed to be the foremost expert advising the President.

I was around at that time and, yes, Kennedy did level with the people. we all knew what was going on. The Voice of America told the whole world what was happening. He didn't engage in happy talk. He didn't call it a hoax. He didn't say the missiles would disappear like magic.

Had us all holding our breath for a few days.
A few days? It had been going on for well over a YEAR!! You probably had your head in the sand, much like you do now.
The Cuban Missile crisis lasted from October 16 to 28 1962... thats 13 days by my count... this is the timeline they talk about when referencing this. Not the time it took to ship them there and set them up and whatever else. Without the internet to tell everybody exactly what the captain had for dinner on the ship bringing the missiles and give us a blow by blow on the negotiations with Cuba by the Soviets, the shipping, offloading and setup of the missiles and their subsequent pointing at us those 13 days were almost all the public got on the subject. So when it was announced there were a bunch of Russian nukes 90 miles away pointed at us it caused the country to be on edge, Kennedy came out and stated what was going on plainly and quickly. Trump did no such thing with the virus, the narrative created itself as states shut down and he lost an opportunity to seize the bully pulpit and take advantage of the opportunity to up his approval ratings into the 60’s or 70’s. He and his people don’t think several moves ahead. It’s sad really.
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Re: “Play it down” idiot tRump Knew Dangers of Covid, Still Downplayed it

Post by Honeyman » Thu Sep 10, 2020 2:20 pm

km1125 wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 1:54 pm
Turkeytop wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 1:35 pm
km1125 wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 1:26 pm
The Klan meeting just got done. You guys missed some impressive stuff. Let me know if you want to know when the next one is.

That said....

It was a bit before my time, but did JFK going running around the country screaming about nukes in Cuba when the "October Suprise" happened in 1962? If there was ever a threat to the health of our citizens, it would have been a nuclear confrontation. The White House publicly denied all the activity all the way up to the obvious, until it was an actual crisis.

Should Kennedy have gone running around the country telling folks to prepare to nuclear war??

Back to the future, if TRUMP was running around telling everyone how bad this virus is, what do you think would happen in the major cities, at the grocery stores and at the gun stores? They were already overwhelmed as it was, with the "downplaying", but they would have been decimated. There would have been riots raiding stores for any available food. Liquor stores would have been cleaned out (probably after hours and through a broken door or window).

And the press would have CRUCIFIED him, as NONE of the "experts" advising him were saying it was that bad. Do you remember what FOUCI was saying in those early days? HE is supposed to be the foremost expert advising the President.

I was around at that time and, yes, Kennedy did level with the people. we all knew what was going on. The Voice of America told the whole world what was happening. He didn't engage in happy talk. He didn't call it a hoax. He didn't say the missiles would disappear like magic.

Had us all holding our breath for a few days.
A few days? It had been going on for well over a YEAR!! You probably had your head in the sand, much like you do now.
You don't see the difference between a foreign missile strike and a contagious communicable disease?
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Re: “Play it down” idiot tRump Knew Dangers of Covid, Still Downplayed it

Post by km1125 » Thu Sep 10, 2020 2:24 pm

Rate This wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 2:18 pm
km1125 wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 1:54 pm
Turkeytop wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 1:35 pm
km1125 wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 1:26 pm
The Klan meeting just got done. You guys missed some impressive stuff. Let me know if you want to know when the next one is.

That said....

It was a bit before my time, but did JFK going running around the country screaming about nukes in Cuba when the "October Suprise" happened in 1962? If there was ever a threat to the health of our citizens, it would have been a nuclear confrontation. The White House publicly denied all the activity all the way up to the obvious, until it was an actual crisis.

Should Kennedy have gone running around the country telling folks to prepare to nuclear war??

Back to the future, if TRUMP was running around telling everyone how bad this virus is, what do you think would happen in the major cities, at the grocery stores and at the gun stores? They were already overwhelmed as it was, with the "downplaying", but they would have been decimated. There would have been riots raiding stores for any available food. Liquor stores would have been cleaned out (probably after hours and through a broken door or window).

And the press would have CRUCIFIED him, as NONE of the "experts" advising him were saying it was that bad. Do you remember what FOUCI was saying in those early days? HE is supposed to be the foremost expert advising the President.

I was around at that time and, yes, Kennedy did level with the people. we all knew what was going on. The Voice of America told the whole world what was happening. He didn't engage in happy talk. He didn't call it a hoax. He didn't say the missiles would disappear like magic.

Had us all holding our breath for a few days.
A few days? It had been going on for well over a YEAR!! You probably had your head in the sand, much like you do now.
The Cuban Missile crisis lasted from October 16 to 28 1962... thats 13 days by my count... this is the timeline they talk about when referencing this. Not the time it took to ship them there and set them up and whatever else.
Yep. Head in the sand.

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Re: “Play it down” idiot tRump Knew Dangers of Covid, Still Downplayed it

Post by Rate This » Thu Sep 10, 2020 2:25 pm

km1125 wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 2:24 pm
Rate This wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 2:18 pm
km1125 wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 1:54 pm
Turkeytop wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 1:35 pm
km1125 wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 1:26 pm
The Klan meeting just got done. You guys missed some impressive stuff. Let me know if you want to know when the next one is.

That said....

It was a bit before my time, but did JFK going running around the country screaming about nukes in Cuba when the "October Suprise" happened in 1962? If there was ever a threat to the health of our citizens, it would have been a nuclear confrontation. The White House publicly denied all the activity all the way up to the obvious, until it was an actual crisis.

Should Kennedy have gone running around the country telling folks to prepare to nuclear war??

Back to the future, if TRUMP was running around telling everyone how bad this virus is, what do you think would happen in the major cities, at the grocery stores and at the gun stores? They were already overwhelmed as it was, with the "downplaying", but they would have been decimated. There would have been riots raiding stores for any available food. Liquor stores would have been cleaned out (probably after hours and through a broken door or window).

And the press would have CRUCIFIED him, as NONE of the "experts" advising him were saying it was that bad. Do you remember what FOUCI was saying in those early days? HE is supposed to be the foremost expert advising the President.

I was around at that time and, yes, Kennedy did level with the people. we all knew what was going on. The Voice of America told the whole world what was happening. He didn't engage in happy talk. He didn't call it a hoax. He didn't say the missiles would disappear like magic.

Had us all holding our breath for a few days.
A few days? It had been going on for well over a YEAR!! You probably had your head in the sand, much like you do now.
The Cuban Missile crisis lasted from October 16 to 28 1962... thats 13 days by my count... this is the timeline they talk about when referencing this. Not the time it took to ship them there and set them up and whatever else.
Yep. Head in the sand.
I put a lot more into it than that after you posted.

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Post by Turkeytop » Thu Sep 10, 2020 3:17 pm

On October 22, the president, with no other recourse, proclaimed in a televised address that his administration knew of the illegal missiles, and delivered an ultimatum insisting on their removal, announcing an American “quarantine” of Cuba to force compliance with his demands
Unlike your current President, Kennedy stood up to the Russians to protect the American people. There wouldn't be a Cuban missile crisis today because Trump would let Putin get away with it.
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Turkeytop wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 3:17 pm
Unlike your current President, Kennedy stood up to the Russians to protect the American people. There wouldn't be a Cuban missile crisis today because Trump would let Putin get away with it.
He’d help find the remote and push the button. Wouldn’t want to strain Putin’s dainty hands or anything.

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Re: “Play it down” idiot tRump Knew Dangers of Covid, Still Downplayed it

Post by km1125 » Thu Sep 10, 2020 5:03 pm

Rate This wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 2:18 pm
The Cuban Missile crisis lasted from October 16 to 28 1962... thats 13 days by my count... this is the timeline they talk about when referencing this. Not the time it took to ship them there and set them up and whatever else. Without the internet to tell everybody exactly what the captain had for dinner on the ship bringing the missiles and give us a blow by blow on the negotiations with Cuba by the Soviets, the shipping, offloading and setup of the missiles and their subsequent pointing at us those 13 days were almost all the public got on the subject. So when it was announced there were a bunch of Russian nukes 90 miles away pointed at us it caused the country to be on edge, Kennedy came out and stated what was going on plainly and quickly. Trump did no such thing with the virus, the narrative created itself as states shut down and he lost an opportunity to seize the bully pulpit and take advantage of the opportunity to up his approval ratings into the 60’s or 70’s. He and his people don’t think several moves ahead. It’s sad really.
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I put a lot more into it than that after you posted.
The US knew the missiles were in place MONTHS before Kennedy addressed the nation in October, and to reports, up until then denied there was an issue. Congress actually took measures in AUGUST.

Now, I don't really think Kennedy should have been running around screaming, but neither do I think Trump should have. There were a LOT of things changing early on and there was a LOT of disagreement on how serious this would be. Overall, it's turned out to be more of a dud than a crisis, although what we've done in response might have more serious ramifications for long term health of the citizens, by crating businesses and livelihoods. Can't wait for the results of that fallout.

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Post by Rate This » Thu Sep 10, 2020 5:54 pm

km1125 wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 5:03 pm
Rate This wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 2:18 pm
The Cuban Missile crisis lasted from October 16 to 28 1962... thats 13 days by my count... this is the timeline they talk about when referencing this. Not the time it took to ship them there and set them up and whatever else. Without the internet to tell everybody exactly what the captain had for dinner on the ship bringing the missiles and give us a blow by blow on the negotiations with Cuba by the Soviets, the shipping, offloading and setup of the missiles and their subsequent pointing at us those 13 days were almost all the public got on the subject. So when it was announced there were a bunch of Russian nukes 90 miles away pointed at us it caused the country to be on edge, Kennedy came out and stated what was going on plainly and quickly. Trump did no such thing with the virus, the narrative created itself as states shut down and he lost an opportunity to seize the bully pulpit and take advantage of the opportunity to up his approval ratings into the 60’s or 70’s. He and his people don’t think several moves ahead. It’s sad really.
Rate This wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 2:25 pm
I put a lot more into it than that after you posted.
The US knew the missiles were in place MONTHS before Kennedy addressed the nation in October, and to reports, up until then denied there was an issue. Congress actually took measures in AUGUST.

Now, I don't really think Kennedy should have been running around screaming, but neither do I think Trump should have. There were a LOT of things changing early on and there was a LOT of disagreement on how serious this would be. Overall, it's turned out to be more of a dud than a crisis, although what we've done in response might have more serious ramifications for long term health of the citizens, by crating businesses and livelihoods. Can't wait for the results of that fallout.
190,000 people in 6 months and close to 400,000 by years end isn’t a dud... And everytime they’ve estimated it’s been LOW... so they say 400,000 by the end of the year... It’ll be higher most likely. In fact the IHME Estimates which the White House has cited previously estimated 200,000 by October 1st. We are gonna hit that 2 weeks or so early. How an event like this which has killed more Americans then every war except the Second World War and already a third of the 1918 pandemic is a dud is beyond me. That’s right... third worst death toll in the history of the country from a single event is this pandemic.

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Re: “Play it down” idiot tRump Knew Dangers of Covid, Still Downplayed it

Post by Honeyman » Thu Sep 10, 2020 6:17 pm

Don't worry, RT...it'll all go away November 4th. It's a Democratic hoax.
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Re: “Play it down” idiot tRump Knew Dangers of Covid, Still Downplayed it

Post by km1125 » Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:34 pm

Rate This wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 5:54 pm
190,000 people in 6 months and close to 400,000 by years end isn’t a dud... And everytime they’ve estimated it’s been LOW... so they say 400,000 by the end of the year... It’ll be higher most likely. In fact the IHME Estimates which the White House has cited previously estimated 200,000 by October 1st. We are gonna hit that 2 weeks or so early. How an event like this which has killed more Americans then every war except the Second World War and already a third of the 1918 pandemic is a dud is beyond me. That’s right... third worst death toll in the history of the country from a single event is this pandemic.
That's hilarious. Just a few weeks ago they were predicting 230,000 by Labor Day. Did we get to Labor Day yet, or did they mean Labor Day 2021???

How many Americans have died of heart disease just this year? How many have died from any preventable cause just this year??

Oh, and you should subtract out all the old folks that died in their nursing homes due to policies from Whitmer and Cuomo... those really were murders. Probably could say the same about the ones in prisons too. Probably should subtract the folks who died "with Covid" but really were killed by something else like a car accident.

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