WSJ: Breakthrough cases represent 0.1% of vaccinated people

[Turkeytop]

What we need is a different kind of lockdown. Business as usual for the vaccinated and lockdown for the unvaccinated.

[MWmetalhead]

Here's yet another example of a talk radio know-it-all who is now regretting his prior positions & statements regarding COVID:

https://news.radio-online.com/articles/ ... -19-Battle

[Honeyman]

Here's yet another example of a talk radio know-it-all who is now regretting his prior positions & statements regarding COVID:

https://news.radio-online.com/articles/ ... -19-Battle

Sounds like he won't be regretting them for too much longer.

Thoughts and prayers....

[Matt]

Here's yet another example of a talk radio know-it-all who is now regretting his prior positions & statements regarding COVID:

https://news.radio-online.com/articles/ ... -19-Battle

Sounds like he won't be regretting them for too much longer.

Thoughts and prayers....

He's doing his part to obtain natural immunity that will lead to herd immunity! Or so I've heard...

Mike Shirkey is a real horse's ass too: https://www.freep.com/story/news/politi ... 169193002/

The highest-ranking elected Republican in Michigan says he'll have natural immunity "forever" against COVID-19 because he contracted the disease in December,

[bmw]

You all keep mocking my stance all you want. Sometimes the one person who gets mocked the most ends being the person who is correct in the end. Time will tell.

Laugh off natural immunity all you want. Reality is, whether you want to accept it or not, that a certain percentage of the population must develop natural immunity for this pandemic to end. Vaccines by themselves won't do it when the vaccine doesn't prevent you from spreading the virus.

[Honeyman]

Speaking for myself, I'm not mocking you beemer. I have issues with people like this idiot, who has a pulpit to reach many people, providing false information to his audience. And karma is a bitch....because if he got the shot, he wouldn't be dying.

[Matt]

You all keep mocking my stance all you want. Sometimes the one person who gets mocked the most ends being the person who is correct in the end. Time will tell.

Laugh off natural immunity all you want. Reality is, whether you want to accept it or not, that a certain percentage of the population must develop natural immunity for this pandemic to end. Vaccines by themselves won't do it when the vaccine doesn't prevent you from spreading the virus.

Again, we're past the point for giving a damn about who was right. It's time to cut our losses and push through. The quickest way to that appears to be near universal vaccination. We also need to be told the truth that this thing is endemic and we're going to have to deal with it.

Also, China is going to have to be dealt with for at the very least negligence. I don't have any confidence in the current #Americans Back Administration in Washington, given how badly they've FUBAR'ed Afghanistan.

EDIT: Even you have to admit Shirkey's comments are idiotic...

[MWmetalhead]

Reality is, whether you want to accept it or not, that a certain percentage of the population must develop natural immunity for this pandemic to end. Vaccines by themselves won't do it when the vaccine doesn't prevent you from spreading the virus.

You are correct, certainly, that the vaccine does not prevent the virus from being spread. However, the vaccine is very effective at mitigating the symptoms, and over time, the vaccine will likely be improved.

Those who are vaccinated, contract the virus, and suffer only mild symptoms will likely develop the natural immunity - even if temporary - of which you speak.

I think Matt is spot on when he mentions "endemic." This thing is likely always going to be around in some form or fashion.

[Robert Faygo]

Can't someone with natural immunity spread it just the same as someone that has been vaxed when it comes to reinfections / breakthrough cases?

Now, a new NIH-supported study shows that the answer to this question will vary based on how an individual’s antibodies against SARS-CoV-2 were generated: over the course of a naturally acquired infection or from a COVID-19 vaccine. The new evidence shows that protective antibodies generated in response to an mRNA vaccine will target a broader range of SARS-CoV-2 variants carrying “single letter” changes in a key portion of their spike protein compared to antibodies acquired from an infection.

These results add to evidence that people with acquired immunity may have differing levels of protection to emerging SARS-CoV-2 variants. More importantly, the data provide further documentation that those who’ve had and recovered from a COVID-19 infection still stand to benefit from getting vaccinated.

https://directorsblog.nih.gov/2021/06/2 ... infection/

Natural immunity can help - but clearly not enough to get us over this thing in the fastest way possible thanks to the virus' ability to mutate and get around natural immunity faster than our collective bodies can learn how to fight off those mutations.

[km1125]

Case after case also shows that early treatment mitigates serious symptoms. The biggest mistake we made (and continue to make) is sending people home until they get sicker before we start treatment.

[TC Talks]

Here's a fun drinking game... take a drink every time BMW tries to sell his herd immunity nonsense. It's like 5 times in each covid thread.

[zzand]

While natural immunity is a wonderful thing people are dying in your quest for that. Spare me your stats that shows the figures, one death is too many and the vaccines are helping keep people alive. I will take the vaccine over one more death every time.

[Honeyman]

While natural immunity is a wonderful thing people are dying in your quest for that. Spare me your stats that shows the figures, one death is too many and the vaccines are helping keep people alive. I will take the vaccine over one more death every time.

zackly. Waiting for herd immunity is like Rube Goldberg machine. Just go to a CVS, get the shot and you don't have to worry about dying.

[bmw]

Those who are vaccinated, contract the virus, and suffer only mild symptoms will likely develop the natural immunity - even if temporary - of which you speak.

Can you please link me to any source that suggests this is indeed the case? I've been looking to an answer to this precise question (whether vaccinated people who get breakthrough cases develop natural immunity on top of their vaccinated immunity) and I have yet to locate a scientific answer anywhere.

[MotorCityRadioFreak]

Why are the vaccinated wearing masks again?

We're wearing masks to protect the people who refuse to protect themselves.

It’s to protect the elderly. Remember it was for only two weeks.

No one said two weeks other than Dump. Based on the way cases were accelerating in February 2020, I knew it would at least be a couple months. His inaction to lead and opposition to masks and social distancing is why this country is where it is now.