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5th Circuit Court sides with First Amendment

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5th Circuit Court sides with First Amendment

Post by TC Talks » Sat Sep 09, 2023 11:24 am

I have to say this is been a tough case for me as I agree with why the Biden Administration was trying to curb speech online. In the end, I still support the First Amendment over any individual to quash the speech that is protected by the first amendment.

I think the court did a nice job navigating this rather sticky case. I guess in the end it's up to everyone to be able to separate the batshit crazy from reality in life whether it's online or coming out of someone's mouth.
A federal appeals court ruled on Friday that the Biden administration most likely overstepped the First Amendment by urging the major social media platforms to remove misleading or false content about the Covid-19 pandemic, partly upholding a lower court’s preliminary injunction in a victory for conservatives.

The ruling, by a three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit in New Orleans, was another twist in a First Amendment case that has challenged the government’s ability to combat false and misleading narratives about the pandemic, voting rights and other issues that spread on social media.

The judges wrote that the White House and the Office of the Surgeon General had “coerced the platforms to make their moderation decisions by way of intimidating messages and threats of adverse consequences” and “significantly encouraged the platforms’ decisions by commandeering their decision-making processes.”

The appellate court also found that the Federal Bureau of Investigation had used coercion in its interactions with the companies, which took down 50 percent of the material online that the bureau’s agents flagged as troublesome.

“Given the record before us, we cannot say that the F.B.I.’s messages were plainly threatening in tone or manner,” the judges wrote. Nevertheless, “we do find the F.B.I.’s requests came with the backing of clear authority over the platforms.”

The court limited the scope of a preliminary injunction, which prohibited officials from numerous agencies from having practically any contact with the social media companies. Instead, the court narrowed the impact to the White House, the Surgeon General’s Office, the F.B.I., and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.


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Re: 5th Circuit Court sides with First Amendment

Post by Rate This » Sat Sep 09, 2023 11:55 am

TC Talks wrote:
Sat Sep 09, 2023 11:24 am
I have to say this is been a tough case for me as I agree with why the Biden Administration was trying to curb speech online. In the end, I still support the First Amendment over any individual to quash the speech that is protected by the first amendment.

I think the court did a nice job navigating this rather sticky case. I guess in the end it's up to everyone to be able to separate the batshit crazy from reality in life whether it's online or coming out of someone's mouth.
A federal appeals court ruled on Friday that the Biden administration most likely overstepped the First Amendment by urging the major social media platforms to remove misleading or false content about the Covid-19 pandemic, partly upholding a lower court’s preliminary injunction in a victory for conservatives.

The ruling, by a three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit in New Orleans, was another twist in a First Amendment case that has challenged the government’s ability to combat false and misleading narratives about the pandemic, voting rights and other issues that spread on social media.

The judges wrote that the White House and the Office of the Surgeon General had “coerced the platforms to make their moderation decisions by way of intimidating messages and threats of adverse consequences” and “significantly encouraged the platforms’ decisions by commandeering their decision-making processes.”

The appellate court also found that the Federal Bureau of Investigation had used coercion in its interactions with the companies, which took down 50 percent of the material online that the bureau’s agents flagged as troublesome.

“Given the record before us, we cannot say that the F.B.I.’s messages were plainly threatening in tone or manner,” the judges wrote. Nevertheless, “we do find the F.B.I.’s requests came with the backing of clear authority over the platforms.”

The court limited the scope of a preliminary injunction, which prohibited officials from numerous agencies from having practically any contact with the social media companies. Instead, the court narrowed the impact to the White House, the Surgeon General’s Office, the F.B.I., and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
Isn’t the fifth the one that’s stacked with arch conservatives?

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Re: 5th Circuit Court sides with First Amendment

Post by TC Talks » Sat Sep 09, 2023 12:15 pm

It's Louisiana, so that is very likely. I still think there is a balance between speech and control.
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