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I Might Be Able To Vote For Trump...

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Re: I Might Be Able To Vote For Trump...

Post by JackAttack FM » Sun Jul 10, 2016 1:02 am

bmw wrote:
JackAttack FM wrote:*deleted*
I read your response before you deleted it.

You're now on my blocked list. Speaking of which, this is the first time in my...
Great, now you're sheltered from any of my anti-Trump rants.

Actaully it was about Ted Cruz eating shit.
But, I caught myself writing under the wrong quote and hit submit instead of save draft.
So, I deleted it.

This is the post...
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JackAttack FM wrote:You can convince yourself manure is good too. Its great fertilizer, you might get used to the smell.
But its still shit.

In the past few weeks I've noticed the Washington Post's political staff is a schill for Trump. For every positive story they do on Trump every single other media source has the opposite reporting, including Fox News.
Which is odd considering Jeff Bezos' recent pissing match with Trump.

Posties like Ed O'Keefe and David Weigel have been writing stories and showing up on cable news acting like they're world class political gurus. When they actually sound like Trump campaign surrogates and they're probably counting the days to their next fully comped weekend at a Trump resort.

If you wanna convince yourself Trump is voteable just because he picks a carrer military man.
Go ahead.
Then make sure you're willing to trash your conservative credentials voting for a guy who (and his family) gave thousands in donations to Clinton and her campaigns for years.
Well, there are different types of shit. Some smells worse than others.
I keep asking myself, "Would I rather have HilLIEry?"
Speaking of eating shit.
Apparently Ted Cruz doesn't mind choking it down.
Donald Trump on Tuesday named Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) when asked about his possible running mate in 2016. “Ted Cruz is now agreeing with me 100 percent,” he said when asked about his vice presidential pick, according to Lifezette. “Well, I like him,” Trump told radio host Laura Ingraham during her broadcast.
After all the crap Trump threw at him in the primaries (including attacks on Cruz's wife) he's now aligned himself with Trump and will speak at the convention.

This is what will be the ticket to passify the anti-Trump crowd at the convention. This would also mean mean Cruz could turn his delegates toward Trump and block any rule change.

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Re: I Might Be Able To Vote For Trump...

Post by Matt » Sun Jul 10, 2016 6:25 am

bmw wrote:
Bryce wrote:...I keep asking myself, "Would I rather have HilLIEry?"
The Never Trump people will continue to throw their temper tantrum over Trump becoming the nominee, but when push comes to shove and election day arrives, I still believe that most of them will vote for Trump because they so despise Hillary, even if it means getting blackout drunk before going to the polls.
We're not throwing a temper tantrum. The guy is unqualified to be president, so we're not supporting him. We also don't like Hillary and think she's equally bad. The reality is that we're going to have a shitty president for the next four years no matter which one of the two clowns wins. ANY other candidate would be trouncing Clinton in the polls, but a plurality of idiot voters wanted a buffoon.

On a related note, House of Cards is becoming too real- the incumbent Democrat president Frank Underwood (Bill Clinton) is running against the Republican governor of New York, who has picked a retired general as his running mate. :eek
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Re: I Might Be Able To Vote For Trump...

Post by audiophile » Sun Jul 10, 2016 8:05 am

Matt wrote:
bmw wrote:
Bryce wrote:...I keep asking myself, "Would I rather have HilLIEry?"
The Never Trump people will continue to throw their temper tantrum over Trump becoming the nominee, but when push comes to shove and election day arrives, I still believe that most of them will vote for Trump because they so despise Hillary, even if it means getting blackout drunk before going to the polls.
We're not throwing a temper tantrum. The guy is unqualified to be president, so we're not supporting him. We also don't like Hillary and think she's equally bad. The reality is that we're going to have a shitty president for the next four years no matter which one of the two clowns wins. ANY other candidate would be trouncing Clinton in the polls, but a plurality of idiot voters wanted a buffoon.

On a related note, House of Cards is becoming too real- the incumbent Democrat president Frank Underwood (Bill Clinton) is running against the Republican governor of New York, who has picked a retired general as his running mate. :eek
That should gave been "a plurality of idiot PRIMARY voters wanted a buffoon."

Lets not forget all the democrats that switched and voted just to mess up the election.
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Re: I Might Be Able To Vote For Trump...

Post by audiophile » Sun Jul 10, 2016 8:17 am

Donald Trump on Tuesday named Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) when asked about his possible running mate in 2016. “Ted Cruz is now agreeing with me 100 percent,” he said when asked about his vice presidential pick, according to Lifezette. “Well, I like him,” Trump told radio host Laura Ingraham during her broadcast.
After all the crap Trump threw at him in the primaries (including attacks on Cruz's wife) he's now aligned himself with Trump and will speak at the convention.
This is what will be the ticket to passify the anti-Trump crowd at the convention. This would also mean mean Cruz could turn his delegates toward Trump and block any rule change.

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Old story...November 2015.

Cruz is not likely to run unless Trump says he will hand it to him before election day. There is no advantage to being #2, when you're already in the senate.
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Re: I Might Be Able To Vote For Trump...

Post by bmw » Sun Jul 10, 2016 10:42 am

Matt wrote:We're not throwing a temper tantrum. The guy is unqualified to be president, so we're not supporting him. We also don't like Hillary and think she's equally bad. The reality is that we're going to have a shitty president for the next four years no matter which one of the two clowns wins...
Hillary is worse because she abused her position of power, multiple times, including so-carelessly mis-handling classified information that our enemies may have possession of it. And we're not just talking one or two instances of her doing this - we're talking several HUNDRED emails sent through 56 different email chains through an unsecure server and often via an unsecure portable device while she was in hostile territory. And why? All so she could operate completely in private and outside of the oversight of anybody. Trump University pales in comparison.

Then you look at the one press conference she gave about her emails (back in 2015) and it was just one lie after another. She is a compulsive liar. Let's also not forget that she lied about being under sniper fire when in reality she was being greeted by children with flowers.

That said, Trump has told his share of lies, but his lies are usually along the lines of denying that he said certain things or claiming that he said certain things that he never said or seeing things that he never saw, or more commonly, exaggerating things. His worst one IMO was denying that he mocked a disabled reporter. Do these things bother me? Yes, very much. But again, I think they pale in comparison to Hillary repeatedly lying about her own behavior - especially since her lies pertain to various things she did or experienced WHILE IN A POSITION OF POWER.

Then of course you have the issue of Supreme Court Justices. I've argued this before and won't re-hash this one, but this alone should be enough for any true conservative to vote for Trump as we know for absolute certainty that if Hillary is elected, the Court will take a hard turn to the left.

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Re: I Might Be Able To Vote For Trump...

Post by Deleted User 8570 » Sun Jul 10, 2016 1:42 pm

bmw wrote:
Matt wrote:We're not throwing a temper tantrum. The guy is unqualified to be president, so we're not supporting him. We also don't like Hillary and think she's equally bad. The reality is that we're going to have a shitty president for the next four years no matter which one of the two clowns wins...
Hillary is worse because she abused her position of power, multiple times, including so-carelessly mis-handling classified information that our enemies may have possession of it. And we're not just talking one or two instances of her doing this - we're talking several HUNDRED emails sent through 56 different email chains through an unsecure server and often via an unsecure portable device while she was in hostile territory. And why? All so she could operate completely in private and outside of the oversight of anybody. Trump University pales in comparison.

Then you look at the one press conference she gave about her emails (back in 2015) and it was just one lie after another. She is a compulsive liar. Let's also not forget that she lied about being under sniper fire when in reality she was being greeted by children with flowers.

That said, Trump has told his share of lies, but his lies are usually along the lines of denying that he said certain things or claiming that he said certain things that he never said or seeing things that he never saw, or more commonly, exaggerating things. His worst one IMO was denying that he mocked a disabled reporter. Do these things bother me? Yes, very much. But again, I think they pale in comparison to Hillary repeatedly lying about her own behavior - especially since her lies pertain to various things she did or experienced WHILE IN A POSITION OF POWER.

Then of course you have the issue of Supreme Court Justices. I've argued this before and won't re-hash this one, but this alone should be enough for any true conservative to vote for Trump as we know for absolute certainty that if Hillary is elected, the Court will take a hard turn to the left.
So you'd rather have the guy that takes the court in an unknown and unpredictable direction?

Hillary's no Bernie so I don't see the hard left turn...
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Re: I Might Be Able To Vote For Trump...

Post by audiophile » Sun Jul 10, 2016 3:07 pm

I think many of us are concerned about a nuclear Trump.

Kasich and Cruz was the ticket for 2016.
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Re: I Might Be Able To Vote For Trump...

Post by bmw » Sun Jul 10, 2016 4:20 pm

NS8401 wrote:So you'd rather have the guy that takes the court in an unknown and unpredictable direction?
Yes. If Republicans retain control of Congress, I think they wiill largely keep him in check.
Hillary's no Bernie so I don't see the hard left turn...
Yeah well Bernie's not a democrat - he's a socialist. And the mere fact that he is nearly as popular as Hillary among registered democrats shows just how far off the rails the democrat party has gone. It has been overtaken by a number of far-left minority groups and movements.

I know common wisdom says that Presidential candidates pivot to the center once the primaries are over, but I don't see Hillary doing that. She's no Bill Clinton, and I see her more likely to pander to the Bernie supporters on her left than to the independents on her right.

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Re: I Might Be Able To Vote For Trump...

Post by bmw » Sun Jul 10, 2016 4:28 pm

audiophile wrote:I think many of us are concerned about a nuclear Trump.

Kasich and Cruz was the ticket for 2016.
I keep hearing that, but I'm just curious - what is the worst you think he could do as President?

We have a system of checks and balances, and if he does anything too crazy - believe me - given his pure hatred among nearly all democrats and his unpopularity among a number of Congressional Republicans, there would be enough votes to have him impeached and removed from office. In fact, the silent threat of impeachment is something that I think will always be looming over him, and given his ego, impeachment is NOT how he would want to leave office.

I have no doubt he'd be a controversial President, but I don't see him going "nuclear" as you so put it.

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Re: I Might Be Able To Vote For Trump...

Post by audiophile » Sun Jul 10, 2016 4:38 pm

Get in a thermonuclear war.
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Re: I Might Be Able To Vote For Trump...

Post by Deleted User 8570 » Sun Jul 10, 2016 4:58 pm

bmw wrote:
NS8401 wrote:So you'd rather have the guy that takes the court in an unknown and unpredictable direction?
Yes. If Republicans retain control of Congress, I think they wiill largely keep him in check.
Hillary's no Bernie so I don't see the hard left turn...
Yeah well Bernie's not a democrat - he's a socialist. And the mere fact that he is nearly as popular as Hillary among registered democrats shows just how far off the rails the democrat party has gone. It has been overtaken by a number of far-left minority groups and movements.

I know common wisdom says that Presidential candidates pivot to the center once the primaries are over, but I don't see Hillary doing that. She's no Bill Clinton, and I see her more likely to pander to the Bernie supporters on her left than to the independents on her right.
The Republican Party has gone even farther to the right... It's fractured into 3 competing wings that can't stand each other... It's not a good look. Whatever you may think about Democrats at least they are basically unified...

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Re: I Might Be Able To Vote For Trump...

Post by Lester The Nightfly » Sun Jul 10, 2016 5:10 pm

audiophile wrote:Lets not forget all the democrats that switched and voted just to mess up the election.
You're welcome.
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Re: I Might Be Able To Vote For Trump...

Post by bmw » Sun Jul 10, 2016 5:31 pm

NS8401 wrote:The Republican Party has gone even farther to the right... It's fractured into 3 competing wings that can't stand each other... It's not a good look. Whatever you may think about Democrats at least they are basically unified...
I completely disagree that the party as a whole has moved further to the right. The social conservative wing of the party has been more vocal recently, but the party as a whole has largely moved away from the principles of limited government and economic freedom towards bigger government and more government spending.

Your latter point is correct though - those who basically run the democrat party have far more power over the rest of the party than do the republicans at the top over their party. That, and democrats are very good at circling the wagons whenever one of their own is in trouble.

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Re: I Might Be Able To Vote For Trump...

Post by Deleted User 8570 » Sun Jul 10, 2016 7:17 pm

bmw wrote:
NS8401 wrote:The Republican Party has gone even farther to the right... It's fractured into 3 competing wings that can't stand each other... It's not a good look. Whatever you may think about Democrats at least they are basically unified...
I completely disagree that the party as a whole has moved further to the right. The social conservative wing of the party has been more vocal recently, but the party as a whole has largely moved away from the principles of limited government and economic freedom towards bigger government and more government spending.

Your latter point is correct though - those who basically run the democrat party have far more power over the rest of the party than do the republicans at the top over their party. That, and democrats are very good at circling the wagons whenever one of their own is in trouble.
Remember the old Will Rodgers saying though... "I don't belong to any organized political party I'm a Democrat"...

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Re: I Might Be Able To Vote For Trump...

Post by Matt » Mon Jul 11, 2016 5:52 am

bmw wrote:
Matt wrote:We're not throwing a temper tantrum. The guy is unqualified to be president, so we're not supporting him. We also don't like Hillary and think she's equally bad. The reality is that we're going to have a shitty president for the next four years no matter which one of the two clowns wins...
Hillary is worse because she abused her position of power, multiple times, including so-carelessly mis-handling classified information that our enemies may have possession of it. And we're not just talking one or two instances of her doing this - we're talking several HUNDRED emails sent through 56 different email chains through an unsecure server and often via an unsecure portable device while she was in hostile territory. And why? All so she could operate completely in private and outside of the oversight of anybody. Trump University pales in comparison.

Then you look at the one press conference she gave about her emails (back in 2015) and it was just one lie after another. She is a compulsive liar. Let's also not forget that she lied about being under sniper fire when in reality she was being greeted by children with flowers.

That said, Trump has told his share of lies, but his lies are usually along the lines of denying that he said certain things or claiming that he said certain things that he never said or seeing things that he never saw, or more commonly, exaggerating things. His worst one IMO was denying that he mocked a disabled reporter. Do these things bother me? Yes, very much. But again, I think they pale in comparison to Hillary repeatedly lying about her own behavior - especially since her lies pertain to various things she did or experienced WHILE IN A POSITION OF POWER.

Then of course you have the issue of Supreme Court Justices. I've argued this before and won't re-hash this one, but this alone should be enough for any true conservative to vote for Trump as we know for absolute certainty that if Hillary is elected, the Court will take a hard turn to the left.
I see no difference between Hillary and Trump. Hillary has just been in the public eye for a quarter century. Trump is well known too, but he is known from the private sector. I like to hold our side to a higher standard.

Also, can you stop with the Supreme Court bit? We have NO IDEA who Trump would appoint to the SCOTUS. He allegedly is looking at a democrat general who got fired for sharing too much information in front of Vladimir Putin. Also, if he's elected president, he gets to pick the next RNC chair. Is there anything to stop him from putting someone like Corey Lewandowski as head of the party?
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