#NeverTrump

[audiophile]

No, that's no that I'm saying. The lack decency makes Trump rotten to the core - therefore untrustworthy on any of his positions.

In other words - A used car salesman (with apologies to used car salesman).

[bmw]

I actually get more of a used car salesman vibe from Ted Cruz than I did from Trump.

If you want to oppose Trump because you think he lacks character, then fair enough. But most republicans believe that Hillary equally lacks character. There is just too much at stake - especially with the Supreme Court - for me effectively vote for Hillary by staying home. With Hillary you know exactly what you're going to get. You'll end up with a permanently liberal-leaning Supreme Court, 4 more years of Obama policies, and the prospect in 2020 of a republican never again holding the office of President. That alone should motivate democrats and liberals to vote in large numbers - while enthusiasm is not high for Hillary on their side, their disdain for conservatives is far higher. So they won't stay home, I don't think.

I'll take my chances with Trump.

[audiophile]

Vibe is different that Actions.

Cruz been a conservative for a long time - at least since before entering Harvard Law.
http://video.foxnews.com/v/484319516700 ... show-clips

I've written a lot about Trump already - his actions (like contributing to Hillary) can't be squared with his new-found "CONservatism"

[Deleted User 8570]

Vibe is different that Actions.

Cruz been a conservative for a long time - at least since before entering Harvard Law.
http://video.foxnews.com/v/484319516700 ... show-clips

I've written a lot about Trump already - his actions (like contributing to Hillary) can't be squared with his new-found "CONservatism"

So how do you square that screwball statement with Reagans change of heart? The guy was pretty liberal too once... Maybe he was a CONservative too?

[audiophile]

JFK would have been considered a Republican today, so that was a time of shift. Democrat were also the war hawks, and anti-civil rights in that time frame of his shift.

I'll simply the best response to Reagan himself: "I didn't leave the Democratic Party," he famously said. "The party left me."

[Matt]

Add George H.W. Bush and George W. Bush to #NeverTrump: http://www.redstate.com/sweetie15/2016/ ... nee-trump/

I actually get more of a used car salesman vibe from Ted Cruz than I did from Trump.

If you want to oppose Trump because you think he lacks character, then fair enough. But most republicans believe that Hillary equally lacks character. There is just too much at stake - especially with the Supreme Court - for me effectively vote for Hillary by staying home. With Hillary you know exactly what you're going to get. You'll end up with a permanently liberal-leaning Supreme Court, 4 more years of Obama policies, and the prospect in 2020 of a republican never again holding the office of President. That alone should motivate democrats and liberals to vote in large numbers - while enthusiasm is not high for Hillary on their side, their disdain for conservatives is far higher. So they won't stay home, I don't think.

I'll take my chances with Trump.

It's hilarious that you've been so busy slurping Trump for months that you didn't realize the guy has never been remotely electable. I don't care about his policies. The guy is so off-putting and unfit for office that he must be kept from it by any means.

I'd also add, this is remarkably similar to 1988. We are coming off two terms of one party in charge. In theory, the other party should have had an easy win if they pick the right candidate. The democrats didn't in 1988 and we didn't this year. Its time to move on and hope we don't lose too many senate and house seats and to focus on getting a candidate who isn't absolute garbage in 2020.

[Matt]

EDIT - not trying to sound bitter here, but the Never Trump movement is pissing me off lately. You people will be responsible for Hillary winning and will have the nerve to blame Trump voters without taking any responsibility yourselves for what happened and why the party is in shambles. For the record, Trump is not my preferred candidate, but he is what we got and he is a fighter. After 20 years of a pansy-ass republican party, I'm ready for a fighter to go in and wreak havoc on the establishment wing of the party.

No, we're not. We value character. Trump has absolutely 0 character.

[Deleted User 8570]

Add George H.W. Bush and George W. Bush to #NeverTrump: http://www.redstate.com/sweetie15/2016/ ... nee-trump/

I actually get more of a used car salesman vibe from Ted Cruz than I did from Trump.

If you want to oppose Trump because you think he lacks character, then fair enough. But most republicans believe that Hillary equally lacks character. There is just too much at stake - especially with the Supreme Court - for me effectively vote for Hillary by staying home. With Hillary you know exactly what you're going to get. You'll end up with a permanently liberal-leaning Supreme Court, 4 more years of Obama policies, and the prospect in 2020 of a republican never again holding the office of President. That alone should motivate democrats and liberals to vote in large numbers - while enthusiasm is not high for Hillary on their side, their disdain for conservatives is far higher. So they won't stay home, I don't think.

I'll take my chances with Trump.

It's hilarious that you've been so busy slurping Trump for months that you didn't realize the guy has never been remotely electable. I don't care about his policies. The guy is so off-putting and unfit for office that he must be kept from it by any means.

I'd also add, this is remarkably similar to 1988. We are coming off two terms of one party in charge. In theory, the other party should have had an easy win if they pick the right candidate. The democrats didn't in 1988 and we didn't this year. Its time to move on and hope we don't lose too many senate and house seats and to focus on getting a candidate who isn't absolute garbage in 2020.

You don't have one of those folks to nominate in 2020... They are all lightweights...

[Lester The Nightfly]

You don't have one of those folks to nominate in 2020... They are all lightweights...

You're being too harsh. Get Carly, Chris or Marco into an Earl Scheib for one of those $99 makeover's and they'll be good as new and raring to go! For that matter if Cruz goes back to his home planet and is refitted with a new homo sapien suit he might stand a chance as well unless the software crashes again.

[Deleted User 8570]

You don't have one of those folks to nominate in 2020... They are all lightweights...

You're being too harsh. Get Carly, Chris or Marco into an Earl Scheib for one of those $99 makeover's and they'll be good as new and raring to go! For that matter if Cruz goes back to his home planet and is refitted with a new homo sapien suit he might stand a chance as well unless the software crashes again.

[TC Talks]

Your voters wanted the guy and they got him. If Republicans didn't then he would have lost.

Don't you be putting any logic into this argument.

[Mega Hertz]

This is the same group of people that cheered Trump as he jumped Obama a few years ago over Obama's birth certificate. Trump was the MAN! Dude could have been elected KING at one point during that whole dumpster fire. But it was because he was piling on Obama; if Obama pissed too light or his farts stunk too bad, it was ANOTHER reason to jump all over him. And now Trump is being treated like some kind of leper with a rash. The moral? Something about being careful about what you wish for...

[audiophile]

60,000 voters switched sides and voted for Trump, in the PA primary...

So the "your" voters is a misnomer.

[Deleted User 8570]

60,000 voters switched sides and voted for Trump, in the PA primary...

So the "your" voters is a misnomer.

Out of how many total for the man?

[Matt]

60,000 voters switched sides and voted for Trump, in the PA primary...

So the "your" voters is a misnomer.

Out of how many total for the man?

When did you sour on Trump? I recall you being so excited to vote for Trump...