Michigan football hit with NCAA violations

[Matt]

https://247sports.com/college/michigan/ ... 202315133/

[Honeyman]

I know you're smarter than that Matt. The violation has nothing to do with him buying them a burger. It has to do with the fact that he a) had recruits visit campus during a dead period during covid, b) the use of a defensive analyst for on-field coaching activities, and most importantly c) lied about it to the NCAA investigators. That's why it's Level 1 violation.

[Matt]

The committed recruits came to campus unannounced. The NCAA is passing a rule to allow analysts to coach.

https://twitter.com/RossDellenger/statu ... mAlN0sAAAA

There is actual tampering and non-NIL transactions happening and the worthless NCAA is wasting time on this nonsense.

[Honeyman]

The committed recruits came to campus unannounced. The NCAA is passing a rule to allow analysts to coach.

https://twitter.com/RossDellenger/statu ... mAlN0sAAAA

There is actual tampering and non-NIL transactions happening and the worthless NCAA is wasting time on this nonsense.

What a magical land Ann Arbor must be! Kind of like Oz. It's a place where they always play by the rules. Basketball coaches who punch other coaches are simply emotional, RB's who tweet blatant anti-semitism do it because of glitches, and linemen that commit felonies don't need to be suspended. Where they never lose games, they are only stolen from them by the refs.....and where they build statues to rape enablers because in this fantasy world, Bo didn't know.

[lidoshuffle]

Here it was:

So , anyone listening/listened to today's Sparty show? I have no dog, I root for both schools, great game to watch, but the mutual masturbation going on between Valenti & Rico today was off the charts...thoughts, opinions anyone?

I disagree with Matt all the time, but I know where he stands because he is at least honest. He hates MSU. I get that...I hate UM.

You're just a liar.

Just call out disgruntled Sparty fans, and I am flattered you have quoted my past posts, stalker much?

[Honeyman]

Here it was:

So , anyone listening/listened to today's Sparty show? I have no dog, I root for both schools, great game to watch, but the mutual masturbation going on between Valenti & Rico today was off the charts...thoughts, opinions anyone?

I disagree with Matt all the time, but I know where he stands because he is at least honest. He hates MSU. I get that...I hate UM.

You're just a liar.

Just call out disgruntled Sparty fans, and I am flattered you have quoted my past posts, stalker much?

Hit "search users posts" and it took me about 2 minutes. I do admit I enjoy exposing people that are full of shit.

[lidoshuffle]

Here it was:

So , anyone listening/listened to today's Sparty show? I have no dog, I root for both schools, great game to watch, but the mutual masturbation going on between Valenti & Rico today was off the charts...thoughts, opinions anyone?

I disagree with Matt all the time, but I know where he stands because he is at least honest. He hates MSU. I get that...I hate UM.

You're just a liar.

Just call out disgruntled Sparty fans, and I am flattered you have quoted my past posts, stalker much?

Hit "search users posts" and it took me about 2 minutes. I do admit I enjoy exposing people that are full of shit.

Fine, I will use expletives such as you,
Quit stalking me, you might wanna use the social app "Grinder" if you like stalking dudes in Internet forums
I stand by my comments...
Go F*ck yourself junior...burn a couch tonight you'll feel better
I'll give you the last word

[Matt]

It looks like the level 1 violation is bullshit:

Additionally, it is generally challenging to prove someone knowingly lied without detailed contemporaneous evidence, which sources say the NCAA either lacks or simply doesn't exist.

The NCAA could back off its attempt to gather that admission and resolve the case otherwise, however it has made no indication that it will do that. An NCAA punishment, even a short suspension, on the Level II violations without any admission of lying might be acceptable to Harbaugh. Anything involving admitting dishonesty would not, sources said.

https://sports.yahoo.com/sources-resolu ... 22831.html

[Honeyman]

It looks like the level 1 violation is bullshit:

Additionally, it is generally challenging to prove someone knowingly lied without detailed contemporaneous evidence, which sources say the NCAA either lacks or simply doesn't exist.

The NCAA could back off its attempt to gather that admission and resolve the case otherwise, however it has made no indication that it will do that. An NCAA punishment, even a short suspension, on the Level II violations without any admission of lying might be acceptable to Harbaugh. Anything involving admitting dishonesty would not, sources said.

https://sports.yahoo.com/sources-resolu ... 22831.html

That's really not the gist of that article at all.
You probably didn't even read it as you have a history of linking articles you don't read. But thank you for posting it, I was about to do it myself. Finally, all the scandals have added up to enough that the national media is taking notice to what is going on there.

Here is another: https://www.si.com/college/2023/01/18/m ... istraction

[Matt]

It looks like the level 1 violation is bullshit:

Additionally, it is generally challenging to prove someone knowingly lied without detailed contemporaneous evidence, which sources say the NCAA either lacks or simply doesn't exist.

The NCAA could back off its attempt to gather that admission and resolve the case otherwise, however it has made no indication that it will do that. An NCAA punishment, even a short suspension, on the Level II violations without any admission of lying might be acceptable to Harbaugh. Anything involving admitting dishonesty would not, sources said.

https://sports.yahoo.com/sources-resolu ... 22831.html

That's really not the gist of that article at all.
You probably didn't even read it as you have a history of linking articles you don't read. But thank you for posting it, I was about to do it myself. Finally, all the scandals have added up to enough that the national media is taking notice to what is going on there.

Here is another: https://www.si.com/college/2023/01/18/m ... istraction

You flushed your credibility when you responded to MCRF with this after rapist Payne was put down:

Go fuck yourself you cocksucking asshole.

[Honeyman]

It looks like the level 1 violation is bullshit:

Additionally, it is generally challenging to prove someone knowingly lied without detailed contemporaneous evidence, which sources say the NCAA either lacks or simply doesn't exist.

The NCAA could back off its attempt to gather that admission and resolve the case otherwise, however it has made no indication that it will do that. An NCAA punishment, even a short suspension, on the Level II violations without any admission of lying might be acceptable to Harbaugh. Anything involving admitting dishonesty would not, sources said.

https://sports.yahoo.com/sources-resolu ... 22831.html

That's really not the gist of that article at all.
You probably didn't even read it as you have a history of linking articles you don't read. But thank you for posting it, I was about to do it myself. Finally, all the scandals have added up to enough that the national media is taking notice to what is going on there.

Here is another: https://www.si.com/college/2023/01/18/m ... istraction

You flushed your credibility when you responded to MCRF with this after rapist Payne was put down:

Go fuck yourself you cocksucking asshole.

As always when you are losing an argument, you begin deflecting and completely getting off the subject at hand.

However, Payne was not a rapist and was never charged, so you're lying once again. And MCRF, unlike yourself, has honesty and class, and later apologized for his comment that prompted my response.

[craig11152]

However, Payne was not a rapist and was never charged, so you're lying once again.

Casey Anthony and OJ were not murderers because they were charged
and found not guilty.
Payne was never charged but you cannot say with any degree of certainty that he was innocent vs not enough evidence to bring charges.
It seems somewhere near 50% of homicides in America go unsolved. That doesn't mean they didn't happen. Sometimes it means they have no clue who did it. Sometimes it means cops know who did it but they don't have enough evidence for a prosecutor.
So unless you can account for Paynes whereabouts on the night in question I guess you are a liar too.

[Honeyman]

However, Payne was not a rapist and was never charged, so you're lying once again.

Casey Anthony and OJ were not murderers because they were charged
and found not guilty.
Payne was never charged but you cannot say with any degree of certainty that he was innocent vs not enough evidence to bring charges.
It seems somewhere near 50% of homicides in America go unsolved. That doesn't mean they didn't happen. Sometimes it means they have no clue who did it. Sometimes it means cops know who did it but they don't have enough evidence for a prosecutor.
So unless you can account for Paynes whereabouts on the night in question I guess you are a liar too.

That's convoluted logic, Craig. You're asking me to prove a negative. The fact is the DA found insufficient evidence and did not charge him. Calling him a rapist is simply conjecture, and borderline libel.

I don't know where you were last Tuesday. You must have been cheating on your wife.

[craig11152]

However, Payne was not a rapist and was never charged, so you're lying once again.

Casey Anthony and OJ were not murderers because they were charged
and found not guilty.
Payne was never charged but you cannot say with any degree of certainty that he was innocent vs not enough evidence to bring charges.
It seems somewhere near 50% of homicides in America go unsolved. That doesn't mean they didn't happen. Sometimes it means they have no clue who did it. Sometimes it means cops know who did it but they don't have enough evidence for a prosecutor.
So unless you can account for Paynes whereabouts on the night in question I guess you are a liar too.

That's convoluted logic, Craig. You're asking me to prove a negative. The fact is the DA found insufficient evidence and did not charge him. Calling him a rapist is simply conjecture, and borderline libel.

I'm not asking you to prove anything. I'm pointing out a woman made allegations of which the prosecutor decided to ignore. The difference between you and me is I'm not ready to call her a liar just because the prosecutor didn't pursue the case. You on the other hand are calling her a liar without actually saying it directly.

[Honeyman]

However, Payne was not a rapist and was never charged, so you're lying once again.

Casey Anthony and OJ were not murderers because they were charged
and found not guilty.
Payne was never charged but you cannot say with any degree of certainty that he was innocent vs not enough evidence to bring charges.
It seems somewhere near 50% of homicides in America go unsolved. That doesn't mean they didn't happen. Sometimes it means they have no clue who did it. Sometimes it means cops know who did it but they don't have enough evidence for a prosecutor.
So unless you can account for Paynes whereabouts on the night in question I guess you are a liar too.

That's convoluted logic, Craig. You're asking me to prove a negative. The fact is the DA found insufficient evidence and did not charge him. Calling him a rapist is simply conjecture, and borderline libel.

I'm not asking you to prove anything. I'm pointing out a woman made allegations of which the prosecutor decided to ignore. The difference between you and me is I'm not ready to call her a liar just because the prosecutor didn't pursue the case. You on the other hand are calling her a liar without actually saying it directly.

Honestly, I am not. I am trying to defend Adrien Payne. He was a good man who was killed in cold blood trying to help a woman from a violent man. He was the father of a young child, and had raised millions of dollars trying to eradicate pediatric cancer.

But Matt, and you for that matter, use a thread about Michigan football to bring this situation up, strictly to deflect and irritate. Why don't you mention Keith Appling? He was involved in the same situation. He truly is a despicable individual, and worthy of your ire. But that isn't what you're after here. You are trolling, and you know it.