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Re: Imagine trying to start a union today
Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 1:21 pm
by Bryce
Turkeytop wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 12:23 pm
Bryce wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 12:04 pm
Turkeytop wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 12:33 am
We aren't wealthy, but we live in modest comfort.
You live better than Kings and Queens of even 200 years ago.
And this is the 21st century. Your point is?
That a modest way of life today is considerably better than very wealthy people lived not all that long ago. Even people that are considered to live in poverty by today's standards are living a better lifestyle than the King's and Queen's of old did. The industrial revolution and innovation spurred on by capitalism made it all, even labour unions, possible.
Re: Imagine trying to start a union today
Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 4:11 pm
by km1125
Bryce wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 1:21 pm
Turkeytop wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 12:23 pm
Bryce wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 12:04 pm
Turkeytop wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 12:33 am
We aren't wealthy, but we live in modest comfort.
You live better than Kings and Queens of even 200 years ago.
And this is the 21st century. Your point is?
That a modest way of life today is considerably better than very wealthy people lived not all that long ago. Even people that are considered to live in poverty by today's standards are living a better lifestyle than the King's and Queen's of old did. The industrial revolution and innovation spurred on by capitalism made it all, even labour unions, possible.
And living in "poverty" in the USA or Canada is better than "middle class" in most of the rest of the world.
Re: Imagine trying to start a union today
Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 4:15 pm
by km1125
But getting back to the OP. There really shouldn't be a problem starting a union today. There are PLENTY of folks who pay lots of other folks for services they really should be able to perform by themselves. And LOTS of companies pay third parties to handle all kinds of functions they could really handle internally (and probably cheaper and better).
So why would it be so hard? If companies abdicate the functions of "taking care" of employees, and there are enough employees who'd want to hire a third party to manage the negotiations, when why would it be such a big deal to get one started?
Re: Imagine trying to start a union today
Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 9:35 pm
by Turkeytop
Bryce wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 12:04 pm
Turkeytop wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 12:33 am
We aren't wealthy, but we live in modest comfort.
You live better than Kings and Queens of even 200 years ago.
I'm not trying to denigrate a lifestyle of modest comfort. I'm very content living the way we live. I wouldn't trade it for the life of a modern-day King.
Especially when it's January and we're enjoying life here in Florida.
Re: Imagine trying to start a union today
Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2022 8:12 am
by Matt
Turkeytop wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 9:35 pm
Bryce wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 12:04 pm
Turkeytop wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 12:33 am
We aren't wealthy, but we live in modest comfort.
You live better than Kings and Queens of even 200 years ago.
I'm not trying to denigrate a lifestyle of modest comfort. I'm very content living the way we live. I wouldn't trade it for the life of a modern-day King.
Especially when it's January and we're enjoying life here in Florida.
How was the trip?
Re: Imagine trying to start a union today
Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2022 8:44 pm
by MotorCityRadioFreak
Reagan4prez wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 6:35 am
MotorCityRadioFreak wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 6:06 pm
Bryce wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 4:25 pm
Matt wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 12:46 pm
Unions generally suck, especially teacher's unions.
Chicago Teachers Union crushed for refusing to resume in-person learning: 'They should all be fired
The Chicago Teachers Union, the third-largest school district in the nation, defied the city's order for school children to return to in-person learning this week, earning them a new round of bipartisan scorn from those who argue remote learning has done far more harm than good throughout the COVID-19 pandemic.
No one should be in person at these levels of COVID. My cousin who had cancer is literally risking her life every time she teaches. Vaccines don’t work as well for the immunocompromised. Body responses are less likely to develop.
Funny how those who shout the multiple vaccines’ “effectiveness” are the same folks that want to shut down public life despite the multiple vaccines’ “effectiveness.”
The vaccines prevent most hospitalizations and prevent deaths in 99% of those who are vaccinated. Sit down, bastard.
Re: Imagine trying to start a union today
Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 6:12 am
by audiophile
New study out now says those more exposed to the common cold have Covid protection via T-cells.
This makes sense. Mature Chicken's don't generally catch the Marek's virus because their immune system is more developed to natural viruses in the environment.
Re: Imagine trying to post non-Covid on BB today
Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 6:59 am
by kager
New study out now says those more exposed to the common cold have Covid protection via T-cells.
Re: Imagine trying to start a union today
Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 7:17 am
by kager
Rate This wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07, 2022 11:24 pm
Which one? The ATU? We voted that out.
Don't know that one, though if the tee stands for Trump, I'd call that confirmation.
Re: Imagine trying to start a union today
Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2022 1:24 am
by Rate This
kager wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 7:17 am
Rate This wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07, 2022 11:24 pm
Which one? The ATU? We voted that out.
Don't know that one, though if the tee stands for Trump, I'd call that confirmation.
Amalgamated Transit Union. Greyhound’s Union.