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Re: Imagine trying to start a union today
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2022 9:15 pm
by Matt
Teachers work 9 months a year, and they are currently in working season. If they don't want to work, they shouldn't be paid
Re: Imagine trying to start a union today
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2022 9:49 pm
by Chrocket87
As if parents needed yet another reason to support school choice, though Chicago Public Schools is the poster child for why school choice is a necessity anyway.
If you are particularly at risk of Covid, YOU need to take action to protect yourself. Mask up. Vax up (if you can). Find a new profession. But life must go on. Keeping these kids out of the classroom as long as they were was already shown to be pretty bad on their development.
https://www.pnas.org/content/118/17/e2022376118
Re: Imagine trying to start a union today
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2022 10:43 pm
by MotorCityRadioFreak
Matt wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 9:15 pm
Teachers work 9 months a year, and they are currently in working season. If they don't want to work, they shouldn't be paid
Children can easily learn at home while teachers with compromised immune systems can be protected.
Re: Imagine trying to start a union today
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2022 12:26 am
by Rate This
MotorCityRadioFreak wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 10:43 pm
Matt wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 9:15 pm
Teachers work 9 months a year, and they are currently in working season. If they don't want to work, they shouldn't be paid
Children can easily learn at home while teachers with compromised immune systems can be protected.
Or alternatively someone can sit in the classroom and keep order while the teacher is virtual. Taking precious developmental time away from 30 kids isn’t worth it to protect 1 teacher.
Re: Imagine trying to start a union today
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2022 3:37 am
by MotorCityRadioFreak
Rate This wrote: ↑Thu Jan 06, 2022 12:26 am
MotorCityRadioFreak wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 10:43 pm
Matt wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 9:15 pm
Teachers work 9 months a year, and they are currently in working season. If they don't want to work, they shouldn't be paid
Children can easily learn at home while teachers with compromised immune systems can be protected.
Or alternatively someone can sit in the classroom and keep order while the teacher is virtual. Taking precious developmental time away from 30 kids isn’t worth it to protect 1 teacher.
That's not what's being offered though.
Re: Imagine trying to start a union today
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2022 5:59 am
by Matt
MotorCityRadioFreak wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 10:43 pm
Matt wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 9:15 pm
Teachers work 9 months a year, and they are currently in working season. If they don't want to work, they shouldn't be paid
Children can easily learn at home while teachers with compromised immune systems can be protected.
There's plenty of evidence that your statement is not true.
Re: Imagine trying to start a union today
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2022 8:28 am
by Rate This
MotorCityRadioFreak wrote: ↑Thu Jan 06, 2022 3:37 am
Rate This wrote: ↑Thu Jan 06, 2022 12:26 am
MotorCityRadioFreak wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 10:43 pm
Matt wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 9:15 pm
Teachers work 9 months a year, and they are currently in working season. If they don't want to work, they shouldn't be paid
Children can easily learn at home while teachers with compromised immune systems can be protected.
Or alternatively someone can sit in the classroom and keep order while the teacher is virtual. Taking precious developmental time away from 30 kids isn’t worth it to protect 1 teacher.
That's not what's being offered though.
I’m saying we can innovate here.
Re: Imagine trying to start a union today
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 6:42 am
by kager
MWmetalhead wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 6:03 pm
Rate This and MCRF are not the same person.
However, they DO seem to be members of the same 'union'...
https://www.mibuzzboard.com/phpBB3/view ... 24&t=59190
Re: Imagine trying to start a union today
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 9:58 pm
by MotorCityRadioFreak
As usual, you make no sense.
Thanks to MW for confirming the truth.
Re: Imagine trying to start a union today
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 11:24 pm
by Rate This
Which one? The ATU? We voted that out.
Re: Imagine trying to start a union today
Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 12:33 am
by Turkeytop
Both my wife and I grew up in desperate poverty. Indeed the first few years of our life together, we lived in poverty. I got my first big break when I got a job in a Union shop, with decent wages and benefits and something called a "Pension Plan."
Today we're retired. We aren't wealthy, but we live in modest comfort. No working class person should have to settle for anything less.
Re: Imagine trying to start a union today
Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:01 am
by Rate This
Turkeytop wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 12:33 am
Both my wife and I grew up in desperate poverty. Indeed the first few years of our life together, we lived in poverty. I got my first big break when I got a job in a Union shop, with decent wages and benefits and something called a "Pension Plan."
Today we're retired. We aren't wealthy, but we live in modest comfort. No working class person should have to settle for anything less.
Too bad pensions are a thing of the past generally. 401K’s are whats happening now.
Re: Imagine trying to start a union today
Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 9:36 am
by Turkeytop
I've heard the term 401 K, but I don't know what it means. It's something we don't have in Canada.
Re: Imagine trying to start a union today
Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 12:04 pm
by Bryce
Turkeytop wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 12:33 am
We aren't wealthy, but we live in modest comfort.
You live better than Kings and Queens of even 200 years ago.
Re: Imagine trying to start a union today
Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 12:23 pm
by Turkeytop
Bryce wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 12:04 pm
Turkeytop wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 12:33 am
We aren't wealthy, but we live in modest comfort.
You live better than Kings and Queens of even 200 years ago.
And this is the 21st century. Your point is?