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The Dangers of Denialism

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 1:53 pm
by Deleted User 4520
A good write up from the CBC. This subject is quite fascinating to me. It can be applied to so many different fronts.

https://www.cbc.ca/radio/ideas/the-dang ... -1.5140231

Sociologist and researcher Keith Kahn-Harris is the author of Denial: The Unspeakable Truth. He says denialism is sometimes a cynical effort in which industries or individuals attempt to create chaos and confusion to preserve some kind of benefit for themselves, and in doing so pollute the public discourse with misinformation.

Re: The Dangers of Denialism

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 2:45 pm
by Rate This
TheForce wrote:
Sat Nov 28, 2020 1:53 pm
A good write up from the CBC. This subject is quite fascinating to me. It can be applied to so many different fronts.

https://www.cbc.ca/radio/ideas/the-dang ... -1.5140231

Sociologist and researcher Keith Kahn-Harris is the author of Denial: The Unspeakable Truth. He says denialism is sometimes a cynical effort in which industries or individuals attempt to create chaos and confusion to preserve some kind of benefit for themselves, and in doing so pollute the public discourse with misinformation.
Mostly preserving power and financial standing in this case. Many pundits on the right have ulterior motives, damage to the country be damned.

Re: The Dangers of Denialism

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 5:05 pm
by km1125
Ah, so now we understand the last 3.9 years with the anti-Trumpers?

Re: The Dangers of Denialism

Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 12:09 am
by Rate This
km1125 wrote:
Sat Nov 28, 2020 5:05 pm
Ah, so now we understand the last 3.9 years with the anti-Trumpers?
Huh?

Re: The Dangers of Denialism

Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 12:11 am
by MotorCityRadioFreak
Anti Trumpers weren't in denial, kml. Big difference. We stood up to tyranny. Tyranny lost...for now.

Re: The Dangers of Denialism

Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 12:30 am
by fuzzpower
Tyranny is alive and well in Michigan thanks to Whitmer.

Biden will not be running things. He barely knows who he is these days. Harris- or someone behind her- will be.

Re: The Dangers of Denialism

Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 12:36 am
by MotorCityRadioFreak
You mean someone who has the guts to fight COVID rather than masturbate in the woods with their rifles like most GOP legislators in the Michigan House and Senate are right now?

Re: The Dangers of Denialism

Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 1:01 am
by fuzzpower
MotorCityRadioFreak wrote:
Sun Nov 29, 2020 12:36 am
You mean someone who has the guts to fight COVID rather than masturbate in the woods with their rifles like most GOP legislators in the Michigan House and Senate are right now?
Your girl won’t even talk to the legislature, preferring to push executive orders (which were eventually thrown out) and her government cronies rather than even talk to the legislature. That’s a dictator.

Her ideas to fight COVID have failed and continue to fail.

Re: The Dangers of Denialism

Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 4:09 am
by MotorCityRadioFreak
Bullshit. The gas tax bill for roads and COVID relief has been on the table for months. The GOP decided to go trophy hunting while the hospitals fill up. Put up or shut up.

Re: The Dangers of Denialism

Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 9:10 am
by Rate This
R Bedell wrote:
Sun Nov 29, 2020 7:24 am
He says denialism is sometimes a cynical effort in which industries or individuals attempt to create chaos and confusion to preserve some kind of benefit for themselves, and in doing so pollute the public discourse with misinformation.
Hell, the DNC has been doing for years.

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Seven words, one description of the modern GOP.

Re: The Dangers of Denialism

Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 4:38 pm
by fuzzpower
MotorCityRadioFreak wrote:
Sun Nov 29, 2020 4:09 am
Bullshit. The gas tax bill for roads and COVID relief has been on the table for months. The GOP decided to go trophy hunting while the hospitals fill up. Put up or shut up.
Fill up? That’s what they said months ago, and most weren’t even close to capacity, some were even empty! Of course, that’s when Whitmer thought it was a great idea to stuff them into nursing homes,

I am talking about her mandates for masks, shutting things down, etc. Whitmer is the main reason the economy in this state is in the tank due to her tyranny. Why should the taxpayers bail her stupidity out? I feel bad for those who lost their jobs because of her.

Re: The Dangers of Denialism

Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 5:43 pm
by MotorCityRadioFreak
fuzzpower wrote:
Sun Nov 29, 2020 4:38 pm
MotorCityRadioFreak wrote:
Sun Nov 29, 2020 4:09 am
Bullshit. The gas tax bill for roads and COVID relief has been on the table for months. The GOP decided to go trophy hunting while the hospitals fill up. Put up or shut up.
Fill up? That’s what they said months ago, and most weren’t even close to capacity, some were even empty! Of course, that’s when Whitmer thought it was a great idea to stuff them into nursing homes,

I am talking about her mandates for masks, shutting things down, etc. Whitmer is the main reason the economy in this state is in the tank due to her tyranny. Why should the taxpayers bail her stupidity out? I feel bad for those who lost their jobs because of her.
Yes, twenty four hospitals are at 90%+ capacity. https://www.mlive.com/public-interest/2 ... dspress_sf

Re: The Dangers of Denialism

Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2020 4:53 am
by fuzzpower
24 out of how many in the state?

Re: The Dangers of Denialism

Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2020 9:48 am
by km1125
fuzzpower wrote:
Mon Nov 30, 2020 4:53 am
24 out of how many in the state?
I'm guessing 136 based on what's on the state's website and this tracker site (go to 'Patient Census' tab):
https://public.tableau.com/profile/mhap ... PleaseRead

Re: The Dangers of Denialism

Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2020 10:37 am
by Rate This
fuzzpower wrote:
Mon Nov 30, 2020 4:53 am
24 out of how many in the state?
As of 2017... 131. However not all are going to have ICU’s or be equipped to handle this. That’s already happening in spades.