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CDC is now recommending masks, they are just catching up on what I already knew.Rate This wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 8:43 pmSaid who exactly?audiophile wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 8:05 pmSocial distancing is a joke, you need 27+ feet and three hours, indoors.
I have no problem with a Hydroxychloroquine treatment option for people who have developed serious and/or potentially life-threatening symptoms. They way I see it, they have nothing to lose and everything to gain. If it works to reduce their symptoms, all the better. If it doesn't, they're no worse off than they were before. Granted, there are side effects that need to be considered, and it may not be the optimal treatment for everyone depending on underlying health conditions, but I think the choice to at least try should be left to the patient, or to their appointed personal representative should they be unable to grant direct consent.TC Shuts Up wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 6:10 pmIn fact, top Health Care Professionals have been in error in their recommendations, such as face masks and efficacy of Hydroxychloroquine. Medicine has been politicized in recent years, and that gives us less confidence in their recommendations in some cases. Also, Medical students in the last few years are no longer trained to think and analyze individual situations outside the box, they have been rote trained to obey protocols, some of which may not be best for individual. Remember that many protocols are about cost containment also, because of insurance company requirements.
Who bares the responsibility for people not taking precautions?audiophile wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 5:37 amOf course I take safe process.
What I don't believe in is the 6' lie. I wear masks and put my debit pin in with pen.
I take responsibility for myself personally, no government needed for that.
The many of you seem like sheep, buying the government recommendations and edicts.
I'm not saying don't monitor it, but an out-and-out prescription ban seems a bit extreme.
Other people 100% confirmed need those medications. They have Lupus. These folks sitting at home with moderate symptoms don’t. It needs to be administered as a last ditch at the hospital level first to see if it even works. But the Lupus patients who need it and couldn’t get it because doctors just started prescribing it to everybody including hoarding it for friends and family and even themselves (A 6 month supply in some cases) would suffer. It has to be controlled. Illinois also enacted restrictions on it and I’m sure there are more states.Calvert DeForest wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 1:43 pmI'm not saying don't monitor it, but an out-and-out prescription ban seems a bit extreme.
Many confirmed symptomatic patients are self-quarantining at home, as their symptoms haven't reached levels requiring hospitalization. We know how quickly this thing can go south. By the time they end up in the hospital it could be too late. Would you rather try a treatment while symptoms are still moderate or potentially wait until you're past the point of no return?
People who need this drug for approved diagnoses should absolutely have access to it. In the meantime, shortages can be aleviated by ramping up production. Problem is the pharmaceutical companies aren't likely to do so without more clinical trials. Granted, those can take time, but we don't have as much time to waste as we're used to.Rate This wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 1:48 pmOther people 100% confirmed need those medications. They have Lupus. These folks sitting at home with moderate symptoms don’t. It needs to be administered as a last ditch at the hospital level first to see if it even works. But the Lupus patients who need it and couldn’t get it because doctors just started prescribing it to everybody including hoarding it for friends and family and even themselves (A 6 month supply in some cases) would suffer. It has to be controlled. Illinois also enacted restrictions on it and I’m sure there are more states.
In the meantime people who need it can’t get it because it’s been hoarded.Calvert DeForest wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 1:57 pmPeople who need this drug for approved diagnoses should absolutely have access to it. In the meantime, shortages can be aleviated by ramping up production. Problem is the pharmaceutical companies aren't likely to do so without more clinical trials. Granted, those can take time, but we don't have as much time to waste as we're used to.Rate This wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 1:48 pmOther people 100% confirmed need those medications. They have Lupus. These folks sitting at home with moderate symptoms don’t. It needs to be administered as a last ditch at the hospital level first to see if it even works. But the Lupus patients who need it and couldn’t get it because doctors just started prescribing it to everybody including hoarding it for friends and family and even themselves (A 6 month supply in some cases) would suffer. It has to be controlled. Illinois also enacted restrictions on it and I’m sure there are more states.
At your peril.lovinlife101 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 15, 2020 9:48 pmEven if required by law, I will not wear a face mask. I have a right to wear or not wear whatever I want.
Florida man arrested after threat of mass shooting at Publix because 'not enough people' wearing masks
I have a feeling that if you tried to go buy groceries buck naked, local law enforcement would inform you otherwise.lovinlife101 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 15, 2020 9:48 pmEven if required by law, I will not wear a face mask. I have a right to wear or not wear whatever I want.