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20 Most Stressful Events For Millenials

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Re: 20 Most Stressful Events For Millenials

Post by Matt » Wed Mar 20, 2019 5:40 am

Turkeytop wrote:
Wed Mar 20, 2019 12:41 am
Bryce wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:18 pm
So, someone stop filling these kids heads with the idea that college is a must.

A good plumber makes a help of a lot more than someone with a four year degree in humanities. No debt either. You get paid to learn.
And they can't export his job to China.

Thanks for your endorsement of the working class.
A good plumber is going to be safely in the middle class salary range.


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Re: 20 Most Stressful Events For Millenials

Post by Deleted User 14935 » Wed Mar 20, 2019 6:57 am

Seniors can always hire the Millennials to change our diapers, And one more job not being exported to China. But we have to find a Millennial that isn’t ignorant or arrogant. The Millennial Generation is the most stress free generation everything has been given to them on a silver plater. And don’t blame the Boomers for that, Blame the Gen X’ers your parents. Oh! Forget them changing our diapers they probably would screw that up.



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Re: 20 Most Stressful Events For Millenials

Post by Deleted User 8570 » Wed Mar 20, 2019 9:50 am

Steve Korvette wrote:
Wed Mar 20, 2019 6:57 am
Seniors can always hire the Millennials to change our diapers, And one more job not being exported to China. But we have to find a Millennial that isn’t ignorant or arrogant. The Millennial Generation is the most stress free generation everything has been given to them on a silver plater. And don’t blame the Boomers for that, Blame the Gen X’ers your parents. Oh! Forget them changing our diapers they probably would screw that up.
Plenty of millennial parents were boomers considering the generation started in 1980... heck I’m a 1990 and both my parents were boomers...



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Re: 20 Most Stressful Events For Millenials

Post by Turkeytop » Wed Mar 20, 2019 11:13 am

Matt wrote:
Wed Mar 20, 2019 5:40 am


A good plumber is going to be safely in the middle class salary range.

As I’ve said so often before, working class has nothing to do with one’s income level. We’re the only class that doesn’t impose lower or upper income thresholds for membership.

Working class is a state of mind. Working class is about the dignity of working for a living. It’s carrying a lunchbox. It’s getting one’s hands dirty. It’s the pride in having one’s voice heard at the Union Meeting.

I was born working class and I’ll be working class until the day I die. If I won the Lottery jackpot tonight, I would still be working class and proud of it.


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Re: 20 Most Stressful Events For Millenials

Post by Deleted User 14935 » Wed Mar 20, 2019 1:00 pm

Bryce wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:18 pm
So, someone stop filling these kids heads with the idea that college is a must.

A good plumber makes a help of a lot more than someone with a four year degree in humanities. No debt either. You get paid to learn.
Bryce, Great point, No one told them to go to college. It’s all simple if you have debts you pay your debts don’t blame the economy or the generations before you for your financial misfortune.



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Re: 20 Most Stressful Events For Millenials

Post by stopnswop2 » Wed Mar 20, 2019 2:42 pm

audiophile wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 6:18 pm
Social media is stressful for young people if you let it be. In the old days it was one thing to be teased in school by someone, where several might see it, but at least you went home and got a break.

Put the same thing on social media and thousands could see it with torment continuing all evening and for days.

It's no wonder the teen suicide rate is high.
For days?
How about years.

The internet doesn't just call it quits at the end of the day.


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Re: 20 Most Stressful Events For Millenials

Post by ZenithCKLW » Wed Mar 20, 2019 4:18 pm

Steve Korvette wrote:
Wed Mar 20, 2019 1:00 pm
Bryce wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:18 pm
So, someone stop filling these kids heads with the idea that college is a must.

A good plumber makes a help of a lot more than someone with a four year degree in humanities. No debt either. You get paid to learn.
Bryce, Great point, No one told them to go to college. It’s all simple if you have debts you pay your debts don’t blame the economy or the generations before you for your financial misfortune.
This isn't a one-off isolated incident of someone going into debt because they made a bad investment in their education. This is a systemic issue affecting an entire generation, universally. Vic did the math a few posts back. I'm not looking to socialize higher education, or offer "free" education. But we have to wrangle in these costs. We don't even know WHY the cost of education continues to soar.

If you're not interested in encouraging education to advance our society to more than just access to education the rich, and are more interested in blaming kids (who want to advance themselves and maybe change the situation they may have been born into) for being too lazy or poor, then I guess there's nothing to discuss. There will be no way for the poor, and eventually middle class, to pull themselves out of a bad situation because there are some who aren't in the situation who refuse to acknowledge a problem. Screw the math right? That's just socialist, libtard propaganda. Who cares if other countries become more advanced than us and we lose more bright young people to high paying jobs overseas - we don't care if there's a systemic problem. If that's your ideal society, then you win the argument. I can't change your values.



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Re: 20 Most Stressful Events For Millenials

Post by tapeisrolling » Wed Mar 20, 2019 9:39 pm

Looking at the list in the original start of the thread, I noticed 7 items that were not even a thing when I was that age. So of course my stress wasn't anything techie but maybe it was the idea of getting my butt shipped overseas to fight for my Government. I remember my wife helping with homework with the kids and reaching the point of being unable to help them on certain subjects because she had no knowledge of the material. Things like DNA was just 3 letters when we were in school. I could excuse her because she only had a Masters in Education and 30 years in the elementary classroom.

We want the younger generation to be able to be critical thinkers so they can meet the challenges of the faster moving world but when you make these kids pay 7% or better for their loans when I can get a house load for 1/2 that. The best part is that the loan will never go away even by filing bankruptcy.

Yesterdays Free Press had an article about EMT's and not keeping the average employee for more than 5 years due to stress and low pay. So the person who is expected to keep you alive to get to the hospital gets a whopping $15 an hour. Pay like that won't make the economy grow. I can think of a lot less stressful job for the same money and not needing all the training.



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Re: 20 Most Stressful Events For Millenials

Post by Deleted User 8570 » Wed Mar 20, 2019 10:28 pm

Turkeytop wrote:
Wed Mar 20, 2019 11:13 am
Matt wrote:
Wed Mar 20, 2019 5:40 am


A good plumber is going to be safely in the middle class salary range.

As I’ve said so often before, working class has nothing to do with one’s income level. We’re the only class that doesn’t impose lower or upper income thresholds for membership.

Working class is a state of mind. Working class is about the dignity of working for a living. It’s carrying a lunchbox. It’s getting one’s hands dirty. It’s the pride in having one’s voice heard at the Union Meeting.

I was born working class and I’ll be working class until the day I die. If I won the Lottery jackpot tonight, I would still be working class and proud of it.
So if I keep my hands clean, have a non-union job, don’t carry a lunchbox and only have dignity for the work can I still be working class?



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Re: 20 Most Stressful Events For Millenials

Post by Turkeytop » Thu Mar 21, 2019 1:15 am

NS8401 wrote:
Wed Mar 20, 2019 10:28 pm

So if I keep my hands clean, have a non-union job, don’t carry a lunchbox and only have dignity for the work can I still be working class?
If you feel working class, then you are. That's the greatest thing about working class. We don't impose an income test for admission. I keep hearing moaning about the shrinking middle class. No wonder they're shrinking. They keep kicking their own members out. Someone falls on hard times and their income drops? Out they go. There's no such thing as middle class solidarity.


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Re: 20 Most Stressful Events For Millenials

Post by Bryce » Thu Mar 21, 2019 8:47 am

ZenithCKLW wrote:
Wed Mar 20, 2019 4:18 pm
We don't even know WHY the cost of education continues to soar.
Well, yeah, we kind of do.

When the federal government started to guarantee student loans so banks could make loans to pretty much any wannabe student, without any risk and even get a few perks along the way on top of it, costs started to rise.

Then around 1993, congress initiated a "direct loan" program where students could get loans directly from the government with no middleman, ie bank. This program ran side by side with the guaranteed bank loans. Costs went up a little bit more.

Then, 2010 the federal government took over student loans 100% as the direct lender. I should also mention federal grants for low income students. The federal government financed roughly $100 billion in student loans and provided directly to students and their families $30 billion in need-based grants and $30 billion in income tax preferences, according to estimates by CBO. That's 160 billion of customer money out their waiting for some college to grab.

Colleges and universities got into the business of attracting all these 18-year-olds with freshly minted dollars in their hands. This big pool of customers, with hands full of taxpayer dollars, represented a profit bonanza. They didn't need to keep prices down to compete for students anymore, they needed to add stuff, expensive stuff, to get these new customers to enroll.

Take a look at a college or university campus today and compare it with one from say 1970. Today campuses boast state-of-the art recreational facilities complete with rock climbing walls, saunas and jacuzzis. I remember having a cafeteria. Now colleges and universities brag about their "award winning" dining with numerous choices for filling your belly. No more ramen noodles in the dorm for these kinds. I also don't remember a Starbucks or coffee shop. Oh, and I bet providing free wireless in every nook and cranny of a campus costs a few bucks too.

I could go on with the extra thing that colleges are spending money on today that they didn't in 1970. You know, things like teaching a lot of the new freshmen how to write because their first 12 years failed them.

This my friends is why 30 years ago 5,500.00 purchased a freshmen year at a major university, including room and board and today it can be as high as 55,000.00. Stop giving money away to anyone that doesn't want to go into the real world yet and watch how quickly tuition comes down.


New York and Chicago were all in with respect to their sanctuary status — until they were hit with the challenge of actually providing sanctuary. In other words, typical liberal hypocrisy.

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Re: 20 Most Stressful Events For Millenials

Post by Deleted User 8570 » Thu Mar 21, 2019 11:52 am

Bryce wrote:
Thu Mar 21, 2019 8:47 am
ZenithCKLW wrote:
Wed Mar 20, 2019 4:18 pm
We don't even know WHY the cost of education continues to soar.
Well, yeah, we kind of do.

When the federal government started to guarantee student loans so banks could make loans to pretty much any wannabe student, without any risk and even get a few perks along the way on top of it, costs started to rise.

Then around 1993, congress initiated a "direct loan" program where students could get loans directly from the government with no middleman, ie bank. This program ran side by side with the guaranteed bank loans. Costs went up a little bit more.

Then, 2010 the federal government took over student loans 100% as the direct lender. I should also mention federal grants for low income students. The federal government financed roughly $100 billion in student loans and provided directly to students and their families $30 billion in need-based grants and $30 billion in income tax preferences, according to estimates by CBO. That's 160 billion of customer money out their waiting for some college to grab.

Colleges and universities got into the business of attracting all these 18-year-olds with freshly minted dollars in their hands. This big pool of customers, with hands full of taxpayer dollars, represented a profit bonanza. They didn't need to keep prices down to compete for students anymore, they needed to add stuff, expensive stuff, to get these new customers to enroll.

Take a look at a college or university campus today and compare it with one from say 1970. Today campuses boast state-of-the art recreational facilities complete with rock climbing walls, saunas and jacuzzis. I remember having a cafeteria. Now colleges and universities brag about their "award winning" dining with numerous choices for filling your belly. No more ramen noodles in the dorm for these kinds. I also don't remember a Starbucks or coffee shop. Oh, and I bet providing free wireless in every nook and cranny of a campus costs a few bucks too.

I could go on with the extra thing that colleges are spending money on today that they didn't in 1970. You know, things like teaching a lot of the new freshmen how to write because their first 12 years failed them.

This my friends is why 30 years ago 5,500.00 purchased a freshmen year at a major university, including room and board and today it can be as high as 55,000.00. Stop giving money away to anyone that doesn't want to go into the real world yet and watch how quickly tuition comes down.
You mean they went from socialist do-gooders furthering young minds to ravenous capitalists hell bent on as much money and customers as possible?

Actually that mimicks the changes in business and American society at large since 1950... helping your fellow man used to be a bigger thing... so did management viewing employees as life long investments rather than dispensable assets... there is lots wrong with the way things have gone. The shift in everything from manufacturing to education really started right around 1980...



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