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Multiple City IDs Past, More Recent, and Present

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Multiple City IDs Past, More Recent, and Present

Post by CK-722 » Mon Dec 02, 2019 10:08 am

It used to be that if you wanted to use another city in your TOH ID, you had to put a City Grade signal over the other city, and get FCC approval.

Some examples of the old IDs.

94.7-WMJC or WCSX Birmingham Detroit
100.3-WNIC-FM Dearborn Detroit

790-WSGW Saginaw Bay City
102.5-WGER Bay City Saginaw Midland (also serving Flint)
96.1-WHNN Bay City Saginaw
98.1-WKCQ Saginaw Bay City

12-WJRT-TV Flint Saginaw Bay City
5-WNEM-TV Bay City Saginaw Flint
25-WEYI-TV Saginaw Flint Bay City

1330-WEAW Evanston (a service to Metropolitan Chicago)

More recent examples, under newer rules that allowed any city in the ID.

96.3-WMBN Petoskey Traverse City
105.1-WQLZ or WGFM Cheboygan Petoskey Alpena
100.9-WFXZ Pinconning Bay City Saginaw Midland
98.5-WUPS Houghton Lake Mount Pleasant Cadillac Traverse City (confusing and took too long with seven words, thirteen syllables, especially with jingles)
102.5-WIOG Bay City Saginaw Midland Flint
96.1-WHNN Bay City Saginaw Flint Midland
93.3-WKQZ Midland Bay City Saginaw
98.1-WGFN Glen Arbor Traverse City
97.5 WKLT Kalkaska Traverse City

100.3 WHTZ Newark New York (slurred to sound like New York New York)

More recently, stations have backed away from too many cities in IDs. But they still have to say Newark.
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Re: Multiple City IDs Past, More Recent, and Present

Post by SolarMax » Mon Dec 02, 2019 10:18 am

WADL (TV) IDs as Mt. Clemens/Detroit



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Re: Multiple City IDs Past, More Recent, and Present

Post by CK-722 » Mon Dec 02, 2019 10:26 am

WXON-TV Allen Park (later changed COL to Detroit, before they wouldn't let that kind of thing happen without tap dancing around the rules, and owning all the chess pieces)

That reminds me, how did they get the WHK call letters back on heritage 1420 from 1220? I know it took several flip flops involving FMs.


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Re: Multiple City IDs Past, More Recent, and Present

Post by ftballfan » Mon Dec 02, 2019 10:33 am

Some past from TV:
9 WWTV Cadillac/Mt. Pleasant/Traverse City
6 WJIM Lansing/Flint/Jackson
11 WBKB Alpena/Oscoda/Tawas City

Some present or recent past from radio:
94.1 WWKR Hart/Muskegon/Ludington/Manistee
93.5 WBCM Boyne City/Petoskey/Gaylord
93.7 WKAD Harrietta/Cadillac/Traverse City
106.9 WMUS Muskegon/Holland/Grand Rapids (might still be the case on 107.9)



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Re: Multiple City IDs Past, More Recent, and Present

Post by rugratsonline » Mon Dec 02, 2019 10:51 pm

CK-722 wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2019 10:08 am
Some examples of the old IDs.
12-WJRT-TV Flint Saginaw Bay City
WSMH channel 66 also used "Flint / Saginaw / Bay City" in its IDs.
CK-722 wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2019 10:08 am
100.3 WHTZ Newark New York (slurred to sound like New York New York)
Not to be confused with Newark, New York state -- a village near Rochester. While WHTZ's ID would pass muster as "Newark" followed the call sign, that fact that there's a Newark near New York City and a Newark in New York State may cause some confusion.



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Re: Multiple City IDs Past, More Recent, and Present

Post by Schyster » Tue Dec 03, 2019 9:08 am

Back in the late 80's/early 90's, I recall WION in Ionia having a unique TOH ID. The ID would be the typical "WION Ionia", but would be followed by a name of a town in their listening area (Portland, Pewamo, Saranac, Westphalia, Belding etc). Each hour would feature a different "secondary" city. These were all pre-recorded, so they must have had a "pile" of IDs that they just rotated through throughout the day.



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Re: Multiple City IDs Past, More Recent, and Present

Post by sfpcc » Tue Dec 03, 2019 1:19 pm

KYMA / Yuma AZ - El Centro CA.



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Re: Multiple City IDs Past, More Recent, and Present

Post by fuzzpower » Tue Dec 03, 2019 8:16 pm

WHMI Howell/Brighton
WXKR Port Clinton/Toledo
WRQN Bowling Green/Toledo
WBTI Lexington/Port Huron
CKWW Windsor/Detroit

Pretty much every suburban station will ID the main city in the service area.



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Re: Multiple City IDs Past, More Recent, and Present

Post by CK-722 » Tue Dec 03, 2019 10:15 pm

Back in the early days of radio, stations IDed with their transmitter location. One of the more famous ones was WJJD Mooseheart, where the T antenna was located, at the Loyal Order Of Moose Headquarters.


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Post by audiophile » Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:13 am

That actually makes more sense to use the transmitter location. The idea of just serving one town in the coverage area is absurd.


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Re: Multiple City IDs Past, More Recent, and Present

Post by TomSanders » Mon Dec 16, 2019 12:42 pm

Buried somewhere in the last break before the TOH: "WBTI Lexington-Sarnia-Port Huron" (and if you aren't listening for it, you'll miss it). Their xmtr site is in Lexingon, the city of license. In the TOH jingle, only Port Huron is mentioned.



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Re: Multiple City IDs Past, More Recent, and Present

Post by rugratsonline » Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:19 pm

CK-722 wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 10:15 pm
Back in the early days of radio, stations IDed with their transmitter location. One of the more famous ones was WJJD Mooseheart, where the T antenna was located, at the Loyal Order Of Moose Headquarters.
audiophile wrote:
Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:13 am
That actually makes more sense to use the transmitter location. The idea of just serving one town in the coverage area is absurd.
Most of Georgia Public Broadcasting's TV stations had their city of license where the transmitter is based, and ID'd by the city of license followed by the city it serves (ex: "WABW-TV, Pelham / Albany"). Two stations are actually licensed in the city it serves, but still mentions its transmitter site as its second city (ex: "WVAN-TV, Savannah / Pembroke", with Pembroke being its transmitter site).



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Re: Multiple City IDs Past, More Recent, and Present

Post by HD74 » Wed Dec 18, 2019 1:55 pm

W J X Q Jackson, Lansing, Battle Creek!


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Re: Multiple City IDs Past, More Recent, and Present

Post by organman95 » Thu Dec 19, 2019 1:12 pm

ftballfan wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2019 10:33 am
Some past from TV:
9 WWTV Cadillac/Mt. Pleasant/Traverse City
6 WJIM Lansing/Flint/Jackson
11 WBKB Alpena/Oscoda/Tawas City
Seems kind of odd (to me) that Mt. Pleasant would be listed before Traverse City. But oh well. But to go with that one, when you have another station simulcasting:

9 WWTV Cadillac/Mt. Pleasant/Traverse City
10 WWUP Sault Ste Marie

7 WPBN Traverse City/Cadillac
4 WTOM Cheboygan/Petoskey

What I find even more odd with 9/10, is WWUP only lists the Soo. Not anywhere else (Pickford, Mackinaw City, Cheboygan, etc).

Then you have CMU's "empire" with only each COL listed. Granted, if the voice over had listed the COL and another town/city nearby back in the day, the Hourly IDs would've taken longer than it already did lol

"Ch 6 - WCML Alpena/Cheboygan, Ch 14 WCMU Mt. Pleasant/Clare, Ch 21 WCMW Manistee/Ludington, Ch 27 WCMV Cadillac/Lake City, Ch 46 W46AD Traverse City/Suttons Bay, and Ch. 69 W69AV Leeland." lol



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