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WMT 600 Cedar Rapids Legendary Self Supporting Tower Collapses In A Storm

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WMT 600 Cedar Rapids Legendary Self Supporting Tower Collapses In A Storm

Post by CK-722 » Wed Aug 12, 2020 9:51 am

WMT has applied for <=25% Power nondirectional Night STA after the legendary self supporting tower collapsed in a storm.

https://licensing.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/ws.ex ... _num=73593

WTVN 610 has been on 1250 watts STA after one of their six towers collapsed and NIMBY Zoning restrictions have prevented them from REBUILDING AND REPLACING their tower built in the exact same spot circa 1940. It will be interesting to see if WMT has similar issues. Yet new Cell Phone towers seem to pop up daily...

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Is THAT where they got the idea for the 486-SX?

Same (x, y, z), different (t)

Your bullet missed my trial balloon.

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Re: WMT 600 Cedar Rapids Legendary Self Supporting Tower Collapses In A Storm

Post by Deleted User 15342 » Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:38 am

Time to sell the land, it’s worth more than the tower and the station together.



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Re: WMT 600 Cedar Rapids Legendary Self Supporting Tower Collapses In A Storm

Post by k8jd » Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:45 am

I actually had a chance to drive by that antenna site when I had a temporary assignment with Motorola in cedar rapids. We had to set up a temporary microwave link and dispatch center for the power company after a big Flood there.



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Re: WMT 600 Cedar Rapids Legendary Self Supporting Tower Collapses In A Storm

Post by CK-722 » Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:54 am

Lucky615 wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:38 am
Time to sell the land, it’s worth more than the tower and the station together.
Unless the FCC were to approve a brand new 100 kW/2000 foot HAAT FM facility for them to move to, it would be impossible to even come close to duplicating the eight state 0.1 mV/m coverage on 600 kHz.

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Is THAT where they got the idea for the 486-SX?

Same (x, y, z), different (t)

Your bullet missed my trial balloon.

RTN Price. Not guaranteed. As of 12:30, 157.71 Down 0.22.

Artificial Intelligence is a Child that needs a Parent to guide it through.

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Re: WMT 600 Cedar Rapids Legendary Self Supporting Tower Collapses In A Storm

Post by Turkeytop » Wed Aug 12, 2020 11:28 am

CK-722 wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:54 am
Lucky615 wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:38 am
Time to sell the land, it’s worth more than the tower and the station together.
Unless the FCC were to approve a brand new 100 kW/2000 foot HAAT FM facility for them to move to, it would be impossible to even come close to duplicating the eight state 0.1 mV/m coverage on 600 kHz.

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Just keep in mind, your reply is to a guy who believes the Internet is a radio.


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Re: WMT 600 Cedar Rapids Legendary Self Supporting Tower Collapses In A Storm

Post by Graham Wellington » Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:21 pm

Turkeytop wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 11:28 am
CK-722 wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:54 am
Lucky615 wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:38 am
Time to sell the land, it’s worth more than the tower and the station together.
Unless the FCC were to approve a brand new 100 kW/2000 foot HAAT FM facility for them to move to, it would be impossible to even come close to duplicating the eight state 0.1 mV/m coverage on 600 kHz.

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Just keep in mind, your reply is to a guy who believes the Internet is a radio.
My internet radio receiver is fed by my wireless router - it picks up radio waves and decodes them.



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Re: WMT 600 Cedar Rapids Legendary Self Supporting Tower Collapses In A Storm

Post by Turkeytop » Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:35 pm

And your point is?


I started out with nothing and I still have most of it.

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Re: WMT 600 Cedar Rapids Legendary Self Supporting Tower Collapses In A Storm

Post by Graham Wellington » Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:39 pm

Turkeytop wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:35 pm
And your point is?
Internet radio is radio.



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Re: WMT 600 Cedar Rapids Legendary Self Supporting Tower Collapses In A Storm

Post by Deleted User 15342 » Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:57 pm

Graham Wellington wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:39 pm
Turkeytop wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:35 pm
And your point is?
Internet radio is radio.
You have to forgive Turkeytop he’s mentally challenged when it comes to internet anything. He doesn’t use a cellphone and doesn’t know if his wall phone in his kitchen is a smartphone. He does have SiriusXM in his vehicle.



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Re: WMT 600 Cedar Rapids Legendary Self Supporting Tower Collapses In A Storm

Post by CK-722 » Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:57 pm

Graham Wellington wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:39 pm
Turkeytop wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:35 pm
And your point is?
Internet radio is radio.
But not nearly as reliable in my experience. Cuts out all the time, every day, if it works at all. It's a near daily frustration with me. I'd rather just turn on an old school radio.

Some things about old landline phones. They nearly always worked 99 plus percent of the time. It would take a near direct lightning strike to make it stop working. Then you could just replace the elements of the lighting arrester. You never lost it because it was bolted to the wall, and a cord connected the receiver to the phone. The battery never ran down and it never needed replacement. It never fell on the floor and broke. It would take a lot more water to damage it than a cell phone programmed to break and void the warranty when it got wet, and they knew by the dot aside the phone if it had been wet. It could not be used to track your every move. If you were home you were home. If not, no one knew where. Only very occasionally was that a problem. Old school phones were not just smart, they were geniuses!
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Is THAT where they got the idea for the 486-SX?

Same (x, y, z), different (t)

Your bullet missed my trial balloon.

RTN Price. Not guaranteed. As of 12:30, 157.71 Down 0.22.

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Re: WMT 600 Cedar Rapids Legendary Self Supporting Tower Collapses In A Storm

Post by Turkeytop » Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:04 pm

Graham Wellington wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:39 pm
Turkeytop wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:35 pm
And your point is?
Internet radio is radio.

And your inflatable doll is a real woman.


I started out with nothing and I still have most of it.

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Re: WMT 600 Cedar Rapids Legendary Self Supporting Tower Collapses In A Storm

Post by Deleted User 15342 » Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:05 pm

CK-722 wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:57 pm
Graham Wellington wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:39 pm
Turkeytop wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:35 pm
And your point is?
Internet radio is radio.
But not nearly as reliable in my experience. Cuts out all the time, every day, if it works at all. It's a near daily frustration with me. I'd rather just turn on an old school radio.
Never experienced any problems with internet radio via my flip phone. And I paid just $20. From Tracfone for the phone had it for 3 years and pay $25. for 3 months of service. I listen to nothing but internet radio maybe on occasion I’ll plug a USB stick in the car and listen to music I downloaded through the years.



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Re: WMT 600 Cedar Rapids Legendary Self Supporting Tower Collapses In A Storm

Post by Deleted User 15342 » Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:05 pm

Turkeytop wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:04 pm
Graham Wellington wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:39 pm
Turkeytop wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:35 pm
And your point is?
Internet radio is radio.

And your inflatable doll is a real woman.
Do you share his doll. Damn, I knew there was something weird about you Turkeytop.
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Re: WMT 600 Cedar Rapids Legendary Self Supporting Tower Collapses In A Storm

Post by Graham Wellington » Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:06 pm

CK-722 wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:57 pm
Graham Wellington wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:39 pm
Turkeytop wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:35 pm
And your point is?
Internet radio is radio.
But not nearly as reliable in my experience. Cuts out all the time, every day, if it works at all. It's a near daily frustration with me. I'd rather just turn on an old school radio.
Understandable. Internet speeds where you live, equipment, etc can impact that reliability. I'd enjoy listening to old school radio - I did for years - but unfortunately where I live there is exactly one station worth listening to.



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Re: WMT 600 Cedar Rapids Legendary Self Supporting Tower Collapses In A Storm

Post by Graham Wellington » Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:07 pm

Lucky615 wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:57 pm
Graham Wellington wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:39 pm
Turkeytop wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:35 pm
And your point is?
Internet radio is radio.
You have to forgive Turkeytop he’s mentally challenged when it comes to internet anything. He doesn’t use a cellphone and doesn’t know if his wall phone in his kitchen is a smartphone. He does have SiriusXM in his vehicle.
Oh I know about him. He is the one who admitted to malicious destruction of property at Walmart because he wished it were still 1979.



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