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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 8:21 pm 
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CBEF 540 is now simulcasting on CBE 1550.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 1:38 pm 
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Is it my imagination, or does 1550 sound louder than it ever did with the English programming? It sounds louder and more compressed than 540 does to me. The unsophisticated listener may confuse this with a better signal, but I've measured 540 to be 3-4 times stronger in field strength in the area where I listen.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 10:28 am 
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Amazing eh, 6dB stronger RF signal, but audio processing makes all the difference in the world with maximum (over) modulation.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 6:42 am 
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1550 is actually a little scratcher than 540 out here, but of course we aren't the target audience.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:37 pm 
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It seemed to take very little time to get 1550 back on the air. I guess all they had to do was switch the studio-transmitter link over to the French programming and turn the transmitter back on. Before they turn am 540 off, I imagine they will start the 98.3 FM Sarnia rebroadcast. This as we know takes a little longer.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 10:46 pm 
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According to radiowest.ca. CBEF should have ceased broadcasting on 540 today (3/1), when its simulcast period with 1550 ends:

http://www.radiowest.ca/forum/viewtopic.php?p=12819930


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 6:06 pm 
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There would be a hole in their coverage area right now if they signed off.
The 98.3 FM Sarnia signal has yet to sign on.


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540 is already off the air. WRDT 560 has a similar array to CBEF, but a slightly different maximum. Both are oriented north northeast. If WRDT could move to 540, they could run 500 watts nighttime, under restrictions in the US Mexico agreement. I doubt that Canada and the US would agree to that, however. Canada will probably award 540 to some format with about a dozen listeners.

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Would CKWW still suffer from debilitating adjacent-channel interference caused by WRDT 560 if it switched from 580 to 540?

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Would CKWW still suffer from debilitating adjacent-channel interference caused by WRDT 560 if it switched from 580 to 540?


Not nearly as much interference if there were 40 kHz between them. But the same if they were still 20 kHz apart. If the 540 towers really need complete replacement, and if it really would cost $600,000 to fix it, then I doubt CKWW would move there. They might be able to use their 580 site and move to 540, but it would probably be less power than 2500/5000 with the existing CKWW towers. I think WRDT could use at least 500/500 with their existing towers on 560 for 540, possibly more daytime. Mexico limits 540 to 500 watts night in the US. They could have 5000 or more in Canada with the right array.

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So.. who would we email with the suggestion of moving WRDT to 540 for improved reception of both? Industry Canada and the FCC?

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WRDT and CKWW would have to initiate it. Either one of them having an engineering study done to show mutual benefit by moving would be the first step. Agreement between the two would be very beneficial. They both might get an power increase out of it. So far, that's the only plan (560 moves to 540) that possibly wouldn't involve building new towers. The maximum could be steered somewhat by phasing the 560 towers. The advantage of 540 is that there are few adjacents on the low side (just 530). The interference reduction possible on 540 would be the same as on 560 to WGR and WKRC. The WIND restriction would be gone on 540. CKWW might benefit from not having 560 to protect.

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I guess that WRDT moving to 580 and CKWW moving to 540 would be another Prop Study that should be performed to see if there are further mutual advantages. That would present some problems protecting WTCM at night, since the direction of WTCM so close to the maximum and serves desirable areas to the northwest from WRDT's site. CKWW staying put on 580 with 500 watts night doesn't involve that, and a day upgrade to the west with at least some null filling is a possibility.

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The FCC would have no problem with it. Industry Canada might be difficult to convince. I think the best thing would be if Canada allowed a third coowned station to move to FM in a market (3 FM and 1 AM, or vice versa), although Windsor is running out of usable FM frequencies.

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I'm all for WRDT moving their 12 listeners down the dial to 540 and keeping their hash off of CKWW's signal. WRDT sure would gain a lot of night time power from the deal.
Isn't CKWW omni at present, but would need a whole new antenna farm to move down to 540 and WRDT move up to 580?


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