CBEFT

RingtailedFox · **Posted:** Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:51 pm

With the impending shut down of CBEFT (analog channel 35, the "french" channel for those that may not know what it is) on July 31, 2012... local federal NDP Members of Parliament Brian Masse (Windsor West) and Joe Comartin (Windsor-St. Clair) have lobbied Hubert Lacroix (CBC president) to convert CBEFT to digital as a subchannel on 9.2 (or, if they are certain no one will ever use 35, they could label it as 35.1 or 54.1, or even 78.1...

) instead of keeping it going on analog OR shut it down... I think that would be the ideal situation in Windsor and many other cities (Saskatoon, Edmonton, Quebec City, Kitchener, London, St. John...).

The original story was in today's Windsor Star (thankfully, most of the paper is also online, and available to read for free!) and is available here: http://www.windsorstar.com/life/French/ ... story.html

So... do you guys think it would be effective to install a multiplexer at channel 9 and operate two 16:9 720p feeds? Hell, move CBET from 9 to 35, in the process for improved reception (or keep it at 9, as it seems to cover the region quite well at just 26 kW)... The CBC would probably not even have to apply for a new license for a multiplexing facility.. they could just convert CBEFT's license into a multiplexing/subchannel license and say "this is how it's converting to digital".

And aside from a one-time fee of perhaps 35,000 dollars for a multiplexer (this was what I was told, if i'm wrong, please let me know), this would offer massive savings from having to run two television stations, two power plants for their transmitters, two master control boards...

Bozzmonster · **Posted:** Fri Jun 08, 2012 9:40 pm

Such an arrangement may be possible, but splitting the CBET signal into two 720p feeds would look like a bit-starved pile of steaming poo on-screen. It would totally ruin a rather nice looking HD signal on CBET. Now, if they wanted to have a 480i subchannel, that probably wouldn't have too much of an impact on the 720p main channel.

JackAttack FM · **Joined:** Thu Jan 05, 2012 6:50 pm **Posts:** 712

Just put it on 9.2 in 480i and get it over with. What are they waiting for? I'm surprised they haven't done it already. They never seem to appoint someone who can run the CBC much less know how to use their remote control.

Like Ringtale said they could have saved alot of time and money by putting all the Radio-Canada stations as a .2 subchannel on the CBC stations in all the major anglephone areas. Then done the opposite in the francaphone markets of Quebec. That could have applied to the retransmitters too. I'm sure Montreal, Ottawa and Toronto would have to have seperate French stations.

It would have been cheaper to subchannel them from the start but I'm sure this is their excuse to be able shut down stations and dozens of transmitters.

RingtailedFox · **Posted:** Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:11 pm

Bozzmonster wrote:

Such an arrangement may be possible, but splitting the CBET signal into two 720p feeds would look like a bit-starved pile of steaming poo on-screen. It would totally ruin a rather nice looking HD signal on CBET. Now, if they wanted to have a 480i subchannel, that probably wouldn't have too much of an impact on the 720p main channel.

Really? Several broadcasters in the USA have done so... and it doesn't seem *too* bad, since there doesn't need to be much compression.

JackAttack FM wrote:

Just put it on 9.2 in 480i and get it over with. What are they waiting for? I'm surprised they haven't done it already. They never seem to appoint someone who can run the CBC much less know how to use their remote control.

They could have saved alot of time and money by putting all the Radio-Canada stations as a .2 subchannel on the CBC stations in all the major anglephone areas. Then done the opposite in the francaphone markets of Quebec. That could have applied to the retransmitters too. I'm sure Montreal, Ottawa and Toronto would have to have seperate French stations.

It would have been cheaper to subchannel them from the start but I'm sure this is their excuse to be able shut down stations and dozens of transmitters.

I agree, and in an ideal world, this would have happened years ago.

Some Guy from Toledo · **Joined:** Sat Jan 06, 2007 2:12 pm **Posts:** 700

It certainly makes feasible sense to go this direction if the CRTC bothered to listen.

stevebaxley · **Joined:** Sat Dec 04, 2004 2:22 am **Posts:** 414

Feasible sense & The CTRC?????
Oxymoron that be

Some Guy from Toledo · **Joined:** Sat Jan 06, 2007 2:12 pm **Posts:** 700

stevebaxley wrote:

Feasible sense & The CTRC?????
Oxymoron that be

Pretty much.

JackAttack FM · **Joined:** Thu Jan 05, 2012 6:50 pm **Posts:** 712

So the last day of the ole 54, CBEFT is here.
No more Sesame Street or Hockey Night in Canada or curling in French.
This was the first place many saw their first boobies through static on a late Saturday night.

Any parting thoughts...?

rugratsonline · **Joined:** Sat Dec 04, 2004 2:20 pm **Posts:** 797

JackAttack FM wrote:

So the last day of the ole 54, CBEFT is here.
No more Sesame Street or Hockey Night in Canada or curling in French.

I don't believe there was Sesame Street in French on Radio-Canada.

Some Guy from Toledo · **Joined:** Sat Jan 06, 2007 2:12 pm **Posts:** 700

rugratsonline wrote:

JackAttack FM wrote:

So the last day of the ole 54, CBEFT is here.
No more Sesame Street or Hockey Night in Canada or curling in French.

I don't believe there was Sesame Street in French on Radio-Canada.

Well, at least they had some nifty cartoons in French!

RingtailedFox · **Posted:** Tue Jul 31, 2012 2:05 pm

Tiny Toon Adventures with laughably-bad french-language voiceactors dubbed over the originals certainly made my day after school when i was a kid... (and when i wanted the english-language non-MST3K version, i'd watch it on channel 20)... i'll admit, i will miss Téléjournal (french-language nightly news), but i am glad that the CBC is at least trying to cut back on redundancies and inefficiencies.

Some Guy from Toledo · **Joined:** Sat Jan 06, 2007 2:12 pm **Posts:** 700

RingtailedFox wrote:

Tiny Toon Adventures with laughably-bad french-language voiceactors dubbed over the originals certainly made my day after school when i was a kid... (and when i wanted the english-language non-MST3K version, i'd watch it on channel 20)...

it's the closet I'm sure Detroiters got to what is/was common to see out of New York, or California where you had the one station playing foreign-language programs often catered to a large minority present. I had a pal who told me a lot of the kind of programs he saw like Japanese sentai/tokusatsu dubbed in Spanish out of New Jersey. I recall SRC use to play a lot of French-dubbed anime classics like Harlock or Astro Boy in the past.

Quote:

i'll admit, i will miss Téléjournal (french-language nightly news), but i am glad that the CBC is at least trying to cut back on redundancies and inefficiencies.

I still would rather they went the subchannel route anyway since I'm sure that wouldn't cost much anyway.

paul8539 · **Joined:** Fri Dec 10, 2004 6:20 pm **Posts:** 373

Oh, merde. Now, I can not practice my Francais.

RingtailedFox · **Posted:** Wed Aug 01, 2012 12:03 am

and zat concludes our broadcast day.... zhank-you for watching ze cheese, w(h)ine, et bagettes channel.

rugratsonline · **Joined:** Sat Dec 04, 2004 2:20 pm **Posts:** 797

So -- as today's the day of reckoning, are they still there?

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