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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 10:53 pm 
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Do all of those 7% speak French as their primary language, or does that statistic also include bilingual folks?

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 12:28 am 
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i know ive said this before but ONLY 7% OF THE POPULATION IN ESSEX AND KENT COUNTIES SPEAK FRENCH, or 30,000


So slap a Regional Mexican station on one of those signals... just sayin... :hat

What they should be doing down here! :rollin


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 6:34 am 
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MWmetalhead wrote:
Do all of those 7% speak French as their primary language, or does that statistic also include bilingual folks?


i dont think so, the only reason ive ever watched or listen to french tv and radio, when i was taking french in 7th grade in 2005, i had to watch an entire 30 minutes of a french langauge tv, i watched some show On CBEF 54.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 6:52 am 
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The outrage isnt just waste of freq. and bandwidth,but what a waste of taxpayer dollars.

Because of high gas taxes were only paying $5.20 gal for gasoline at the pump but we have have money to waste on multiple minority language radio stations in a mostly english language area.

Im not against them having French radio, but how many do you need for the small pop. The french canadians I know never ever mention these stations, if we talk radio they talk about Detroit stations.

And to think in the prov. of Quebec its against the law to put up an sign in english.We must be crazy. :barf


It's actually banned in Quebec?

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:08 am 
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The Quebec law says French is the primary language. I believe if you have an English sign, you must have a larger French sign as well, even in the English neighborhoods of Montreal.

In all my trips to Windsor, I have never met anyone who spoke French as their first language. Only one person was bilingual. There is no reason whatsoever for all of these stations. Why can't Leamington also serve Windsor, or vice versa?


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:30 am 
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Maybe the CBC should run a pledge drive. If they get enough money to keep it on, then it's used, otherwise sell it off.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 6:00 pm 
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48125er wrote:
MWmetalhead wrote:
Do all of those 7% speak French as their primary language, or does that statistic also include bilingual folks?


i dont think so, the only reason ive ever watched or listen to french tv and radio, when i was taking french in 7th grade in 2005, i had to watch an entire 30 minutes of a french langauge tv, i watched some show On CBEF 54.

Well at least that's beneficial!

Too bad I don't recall something like that down here when I was taking Spanish in high school, or it would've been a nice excuse to watch some Sabado Gigante on Univision when we had it on Buckeye Cable!

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The Quebec law says French is the primary language. I believe if you have an English sign, you must have a larger French sign as well, even in the English neighborhoods of Montreal.

I remember that. And yet they still have their English media in some form or another off at the side.

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In all my trips to Windsor, I have never met anyone who spoke French as their first language. Only one person was bilingual. There is no reason whatsoever for all of these stations. Why can't Leamington also serve Windsor, or vice versa?

We do wonder. Seems like a waste of money operating those many transmitters.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 6:57 pm 
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The only major English media in Quebec is located in Montreal. Gatineau has Ottawa across the river. Other than that, it's almost all French. There are very few English non-CBC radio stations outside of those areas, and the only non CBC English TV I know of are Global repeaters in Quebec City and Sherbrooke.


Back to CBEF, I finally listened in the car, and it's exactly what I thought- a jumbled mess. Sometimes CBEF wins, sometimes Star 105.5, other times it's a mix of them both. What a waste.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:05 am 
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this is to prevent people from listening to out-of-market stations like Star 105.5 Toledo... the CRTC is known for licensing stations along the border where they will give, and recieve, interference with american stations, as a way of jamming them.... just a couple years back, a station launched in the Cobourg/Peterborough area, despite a station from Rochester being easily-listenable across the lake (even at 90 miles or so!).... i agree this is a waste of money, electricity, and resources... if and when the stations come up for renewal, i'll object on the grounds that they are not needed... have one highly-directional signal in windsor, aimed at leamington, and keep the sarnia and chatham transmitters seperate, since they may be too far apart to easily serve each other. Alternately, if the CRTC is bombarded with enough complaints of signal interference from a distant station, CBEF-2-FM may hae to move to a different frequency, increase power, or shut down. I know WWWM-FM is in a different country, but if its signal still penetrates well into Windsor, then it might not be wise to put a station on this frequency.... It's the same reason a station does not launch on 100.3 FM in Windsor.... it would be like an elephant stomping on an ant. :P

Without this duplication of services, it will free up the FM band for more uses, both public, and private...

Here's what i propose:

Shut down 105.5 immediately, since it is unlistenable in its entire service area (WWWM-FM, Star 105.5 is listenable throughout much of Essex County). its goal as a jammer is failing. I would increase the power of CBEF-1-FM (103.1 Leamington) to about 12 kW to cover all of Essex County (and it might even cover all of Chatham-Kent, as well!). If this is absolutely not doable, then switch CBEF-2-FM (105.5 Windsor) to 103.1 as a synchronized on-channel repeater. This was done with CKUE-FM in Chatham and CKUE-FM-1 in Windsor when they were both on 95.1 (to answer someone's question about why it's so weak in Macomb County: it's to prevent signal from radiating into the USA. it's *highly* directional to the east, and was moved to 100.7 so it, and 95.1, can increase power and possibly become seperate stations).

so, to summarize:
88.1 CBEE-FM Chatham. At 1.43 kW, this probably doesn't extend far beyond the built-up part of Chatham. In fact, it could probably stick around. This repeats CBEW-FM Windsor.
90.3 CBEG-FM Sarnia. At 1.8 kW, this probably covers all of Sarnia, and parts of the neighbouring towns, and should stick around. This repeats CBEW-FM Windsor as well.
91.9 CBEW-FM-1 Leamington. At 10.45 kW, this should be shut down, or replace CBEW-FM as the primary signal. CBEW-FM-1. It's a class B1 station!
89.9 CBE-FM Windsor. at 100 kW, this adequately serves Leamington, Chatham, and Sarnia.
97.5 CBEW-FM Windsor. At 19 kW, this should cover Leamington as well, especially since it's directional TO the southeast, to protect CIQM-FM in London, WYDM-FM in Monroe, and WJIM-FM in Lansing (all on 97.5). If it cannot serve Leamington and Windsor, boost power to 32 kW.
103.1 CBEF-1-FM Leamington. Increase power to cover downtown windsor, when 105.5 is abandoned.
103.9 CJBC-FM-1 Windsor. This is a full-time repeater of CJBC-FM Toronto, playing Espace Musique (french music).
105.5 CBEF-2-FM Windsor: GONE. Label this frequency in Windsor as "occupied/unusable". Move it to 91.9 (provided it doesn't interfere with WVMV-FM in China Township, Macomb County), or 103.1 and act as a single-frequency repeater.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 1:26 pm 
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89.9 has a poor signal in Sarnia. I think all the steel in the industrial part physically blocks it.
The CBC is about to be cut by 10 percent or more soon by the government, so new investments are doubtful in the near future. If they get cut even more in a few years, CBC Radio Two and Espace Musique might even get shut or become internet only services.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 1:29 pm 
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100.7 signal is very good in Wayne county and southern oakland county.


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