Most Unpopular Federal Government In 15 Years

Bryce · **Joined:** Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:04 pm **Posts:** 1457

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0412/75666.html

Can't wait till the Buzzboard's liberal brain trust, you know, the smart ones, fill us in on how it's the fault of conservatives or the slightly left of moderate Bush Administration.

Sparky · **Joined:** Sun Mar 13, 2011 11:35 am **Posts:** 1100

And what is the approval rating of the Republican congress, oh Mr. Genius? Or does that not count? Is it only the "Liberal" part of the Government that is unpopular and the House and all of the GOP Governors don't matter?

I swear, everytime I read one of your posts, I can feel grey matter dying.

Bryce · **Joined:** Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:04 pm **Posts:** 1457

Sparky wrote:

the GOP Governors don't matter?

I swear, everytime I read one of your posts, I can feel grey matter dying.

Evidently you didn't read or understand the poll. Local and STATE satisfaction is over 60 percent. This would include the Governors you mention.

As far as putting the current House of Representative on the hook, the office of the President and both Houses of Congress were controlled by one party for two years. Evidently they didn't put policy in place during their replete oversight that is reaping rewards today.

I have a sneaky suspicion that you didn't blame congress for the ills and lack of public support during the last two years of the Bush presidency.

Sparky · **Joined:** Sun Mar 13, 2011 11:35 am **Posts:** 1100

I have a sneaky suspicion you didn't mind the Republican congress and Bush completely fucking this country for 6 years unchecked. What happened in 2006 was a band aid to stop the bleeding. You'd know that if you actually pulled your head out of the clouds.

And don't make me start posting approval ratings for Governors. They're all in the high 30's to low 40's and one of them may lose his job soon.

Spin all you want, but you people have had since January of last year (and since your kind gave Obama 5 mins to fix Bush's shit that's only fair) and so I ask.......what's the problem? If John Boner and all his ilk and all the GOP Governors are that great, why is the populace all pissed off?

You myopic old goat. You truly sicken me.

Fire Chief · **Posted:** Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:28 pm

Bryce,

We had one party run the show pretty much from 2001 to 2007.

It was a clear cut disaster. The policies they set forth are still trashing the economy today.

Since 2007 to present it's been a crap shoot.

While the Obama admin is the most unpopular admin in 15 years, let's take into account that the previous President left office with a 29% approval rating.

As for Congress, a new record-low 11% of Americans approve of the job Congress is doing, the lowest single rating in Gallup's history of asking this question since 1974. This earns Congress a 17% yearly average for 2011, the lowest annual congressional approval rating in Gallup history.

Now you can't spin the current approval rating on Bush. That's a fact. But what you put on Bush and the Republicans is the overall dis-satisfactions with Congress and the overall performance of Washington. It was your side that said the following:

Senator Mitch McConnel - “The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president.”

Rush Limbaugh - "Okay, I'll send you a response, but I don't need 400 words, I need four: I hope he fails."

The general public, right or left, is sick of the scorched earth policy of both sides and the refusal to accept anything in the middle from conservatives.

Sparky · **Joined:** Sun Mar 13, 2011 11:35 am **Posts:** 1100

And you know what Fire Chief? They're going to fail.

Mitt Romney.

Yeah, right. :rolleyes

Neckbeard · **Posted:** Fri Apr 27, 2012 12:30 am

Bryce wrote:

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0412/75666.html

Can't wait till the Buzzboard's liberal brain trust, you know, the smart ones, fill us in on how it's the fault of conservatives or the slightly left of moderate Bush Administration.

Why would they be satisfied? Dems wanted a liberal and got a moderate republican president, we see complete intransigence coming from congress and we have activist judges mistaking a creature of statue for a creature in fact. We are somewhere between right wing and bizarro world in how they approach governing and if you are honest you will acknowledge that.

I find it remarkable that conservatives have done such a magnificent job of dragging us to the right that someone would call an adminsitration who pushed to privatize social security, illogically low taxes and loose regulation of finance, all while behaving like a complete, brash neoconservative with a bone to pick with gay marriage and an almost fetishistic need to be close to the church a left of moderate administration. The truly sad thing is that I could be talking about the current administration as well and there wouldn't be much a difference! You guys get what you want and you just want more. Well, actions have consequences, when you kill unions, make it more advantageous to bounce around financial instruments than to invest in risk-bearing projects and find insane ways to deploy the "toys of war" on what have become almost random targets, this unabashed constant yank to the right will eventually cost us our America.

And why? All so the idiots among us can pull down other people's pants for believing in a different God. Everyone has plenty of reasons to be pissed off. Ironically half the people aren't pissed off for any of them, only the ones that have been remarkably marketed.

Bryce · **Joined:** Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:04 pm **Posts:** 1457

Fire Chief wrote:

Bryce,

We had one party run the show pretty much from 2001 to 2007.

It was a clear cut disaster. The policies they set forth are still trashing the economy today.

Take a look at the unemployment numbers during the time that one party "ran the show" and compare those with the cooked books numbers of today.

Fire Chief wrote:

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Since 2007 to present it's been a crap shoot.

While the Obama admin is the most unpopular admin in 15 years, let's take into account that the previous President left office with a 29% approval rating.

Kind of surprising it was even that high given the non stop trashing he recieved. I wonder what the current ratings would be if the national media weren't cheer-leading for the current inhabitant.

Fire Chief wrote:

As for Congress, a new record-low 11% of Americans approve of the job Congress is doing, the lowest single rating in Gallup's history of asking this question since 1974. This earns Congress a 17% yearly average for 2011, the lowest annual congressional approval rating in Gallup history.

Now you can't spin the current approval rating on Bush. That's a fact. But what you put on Bush and the Republicans is the overall dis-satisfactions with Congress and the overall performance of Washington. It was your side that said the following:

Senator Mitch McConnel - “The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president.”

Rush Limbaugh - "Okay, I'll send you a response, but I don't need 400 words, I need four: I hope he fails."

The general public, right or left, is sick of the scorched earth policy of both sides and the refusal to accept anything in the middle from conservatives.

I might be wrong on this, and if I am I'm sure someone will correct me, but isn't the house passing legislation that the DemocratICK Senate won't even bring to the floor? If memory serves, the House of Representative have passed at least a dozen different "jobs bills" that Harry Reid won't even bring to the floor. How many years has the Senate went without even passing a budget? Not sure you can hang the current discontent with congress completely on the Republicans.

Bryce · **Joined:** Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:04 pm **Posts:** 1457

Neckbeard wrote:

Bryce wrote:

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0412/75666.html

Can't wait till the Buzzboard's liberal brain trust, you know, the smart ones, fill us in on how it's the fault of conservatives or the slightly left of moderate Bush Administration.

Why would they be satisfied? Dems wanted a liberal and got a moderate republican president, we see complete intransigence coming from congress and we have activist judges mistaking a creature of statue for a creature in fact. We are somewhere between right wing and bizarro world in how they approach governing and if you are honest you will acknowledge that.

I find it remarkable that conservatives have done such a magnificent job of dragging us to the right that someone would call an adminsitration who pushed to privatize social security, illogically low taxes and loose regulation of finance, all while behaving like a complete, brash neoconservative with a bone to pick with gay marriage and an almost fetishistic need to be close to the church a left of moderate administration. The truly sad thing is that I could be talking about the current administration as well and there wouldn't be much a difference! You guys get what you want and you just want more. Well, actions have consequences, when you kill unions, make it more advantageous to bounce around financial instruments than to invest in risk-bearing projects and find insane ways to deploy the "toys of war" on what have become almost random targets, this unabashed constant yank to the right will eventually cost us our America.

And why? All so the idiots among us can pull down other people's pants for believing in a different God. Everyone has plenty of reasons to be pissed off. Ironically half the people aren't pissed off for any of them, only the ones that have been remarkably marketed.

You know what? When it comes to the social issues you bring up, you're right. The Bush administration was far right when it came to social policy. The Republican party would be much better off if they would forgo the social meddling and stick to fiscal issues. Thank God Santorum didn't get the nod or it would be all over but the Obama victory party. I was referring to its fiscal policy and the over spending.

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Financial oversight? Hmmm...seems to me it was Bush that signed Sarbanes-Oxley into law and it was Barney Frank that assured us that there was not a thing wrong with Fannie and Freddie and the housing market was just peachy.

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Not for believing in a different God, but for putting bombs in their underwear. Don't seem that you have a big issue with us making an old lady in a wheelchair take off her diaper or 7 year olds being felt up in the name of security.

Bryce · **Joined:** Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:04 pm **Posts:** 1457

Sparky wrote:

You myopic old goat. You truly sicken me.

Then I must certainly be on the right track!

Neckbeard · **Posted:** Fri Apr 27, 2012 4:41 am

Bryce wrote:

You know what? When it comes to the social issues you bring up, you're right. The Bush administration was far right when it came to social policy. The Republican party would be much better off if they would forgo the social meddling and stick to fiscal issues. Thank God Santorum didn't get the nod or it would be all over but the Obama victory party. I was referring to its fiscal policy and the over spending.

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So the spending trillions on unnecessary wars, spending a T and a half on inefficient tax cuts and trying to cut social security aren't part of conservative/neoconservative strategy?

Bryce wrote:

Financial oversight? Hmmm...seems to me it was Bush that signed Sarbanes-Oxley into law and it was Barney Frank that assured us that there was not a thing wrong with Fannie and Freddie and the housing market was just peachy.

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I give SOx 9/10. I think it's great and a lot of these people criticizing it saying things like "it makes businesses want to go elsewhere" should consider what businesses it is making want to go elsewhere. Not the ones we want here. Further, to your point concerning Fannie and Freddie, they deserve some hate, a good amount of it, but we need to look deeper in and see the deregulation that has occurred and consider it's impact. Further, derivatives and bizarre games being played with risk, pushing it down from to top onto the heads of the people should have never been allowed.

Expecting banks to regulate themselves is like asking your dog to protect an open bag of food.

Bryce wrote:

Not for believing in a different God, but for putting bombs in their underwear. Don't seem that you have a big issue with us making an old lady in a wheelchair take off her diaper or 7 year olds being felt up in the name of security.

I believe there are a higher number of perverts walking the streets than terrorists. Should we be kicking down all the white single males with creepy glasses' doors because they fit the common description? I'd venture to guess in the past year more lives were ruined in the US by perverts than by terrorists in the history of our nation. And further, if we think we know who the terrorists are, when someone who isn't what we think a terrorist commits a terrorist act, what do we do then? What did we do post Timothy McVeigh or Ted Kaczynski? My father-in-law's brother looks just like Kaczynski and goes around southern Macomb county getting drunk and tossed out of churches and restaurants for wandering in randomly and screaming about the gov't. They haven't stripped him down when he flies to Florida.

Sparky · **Joined:** Sun Mar 13, 2011 11:35 am **Posts:** 1100

Neckbeard, you can't use reasoning when talking to the uninformed. The GOP's base is basically people who are brainwashed into thinking that someday, if they keep voting against their own economic interests, that the very rich will someday cut them in on the action, when in reality, the uber rich have no interest in doing so, throw in the stupid social issues like Homosexuals, Abortion and other stupid issues that really don't matter (and the Government has no right being involved in) and you have yourself the base of the Republican party. Its good for about 40 percent or so for now, but that number will only keep dwindling.

Fire Chief · **Posted:** Fri Apr 27, 2012 10:49 am

Bryce wrote:

Take a look at the unemployment numbers during the time that one party "ran the show" and compare those with the cooked books numbers of today.

According to the chart seen here, the U.S. has cut domestic jobs in almost every year from 2001-2009. Over the same time frame, offshore outsourced jobs from these multinational U.S. corporations grew in each year, save for a slight decrease from 2008 to 2009. The Republican Jobs Plan.

Bryce wrote:

Kind of surprising it was even that high given the non stop trashing he recieved. I wonder what the current ratings would be if the national media weren't cheer-leading for the current inhabitant.

WTF? Put your purse down bitch. Obama gets a pass? Bush picked on? Frankly after two bailouts, two failed wars, a deficit of $5 trillion when 8 years prior we were on the road to balancing the budget and eliminating the debt in 10 years, he deserved almost everything he got. I will say this Bush, was a lousy President in the big picture because of his economic failure of repeating Supply Side failures, but I will give his a pass on Iraq. That solely rests on the Neo Cons like Cheney and his pals. They ran the show on that mess with Bush going along for the ride. He is a failed leader like Obama has been with his weakness. But Republicans overall have no interest empowering those on the lower in end of the social scale. Their agenda is to protect those with wealth from those that have nothing in life. It is to ensure they have a workforce that will work for any job they can get, not build a career and a life. That is the facts presented of 30 years of trickle down failure and those numbers don't lie.

Take a look at the things so called "News Sites" have to say about Obama? Compairson to the most vile people of history. When it was done back in the Bush years, I bet people like you were screaming to high heaven about disrespect of the President and how terrible it was.

Now you assholes actually create this shit and laugh about it. To compare a sitting POTUS as a Hitler and a Nazi? You fuckers don't even know what you're talking about but it sure looks good on the back of a bumper sticker.

Bryce wrote:

I might be wrong on this, and if I am I'm sure someone will correct me, but isn't the house passing legislation that the DemocratICK Senate won't even bring to the floor? If memory serves, the House of Representative have passed at least a dozen different "jobs bills" that Harry Reid won't even bring to the floor. How many years has the Senate went without even passing a budget? Not sure you can hang the current discontent with congress completely on the Republicans.

You might be correct, but when you use words like DemocratICK, you simply need to be dismissed. You come here and want to have a rational debate, get upset when you get called names, but then you resort to the typical Rush Limbaugh ditto head caller shit and use cute words. Grow up Bryce or shut the fuck up.

Sparky · **Joined:** Sun Mar 13, 2011 11:35 am **Posts:** 1100

Fire Chief, trying to talk any sense into Bryce is like trying to pick up a turd by the clean end.

Fire Chief · **Posted:** Fri Apr 27, 2012 6:59 pm

Sparky wrote:

Fire Chief, trying to talk any sense into Bryce is like trying to pick up a turd by the clean end.

A Republican member of the House or Senate could wake up in bed nude, with a naked 15 year old cheerleader and a dead gay queen in his bathroom and Bryce would still tell us that it was a set up by the Democrats, blame Barney Frank, Ted Kennedy and Bill Clinton for things and praise the good things the perverted Republican did in Congress.

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