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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 3:49 pm 
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George Zimmerman to Finally Be Charged in Trayvon Martin Shooting

A law enforcement source tells the Washington Post that George Zimmerman will soon be charged in the shooting of Trayvon Martin:

Florida special prosecutor Angela Corey plans to announce as early as Wednesday afternoon that she is charging neighborhood watch volunteer George Zimmerman in the shooting of Trayvon Martin, according to a law enforcement official close to the investigation.

It was not immediately clear what charge Zimmerman will face.

Other outlets have confirmed. The big problem is that no one seems to know where Zimmerman is, least of all his ex-attorneys, who resigned yesterday in a bizarre and darkly funny press conference. He is, or was, updating his website, www.TheRealGeorgeZimmerman.com

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 8:47 pm 
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Told you so.

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Evidently, one of the best legal minds in the country, Alan Dershowitz, think the charges are absurd based upon the evidence.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government ... on-immoral

Can't blame this opinion on him being a conservative asshole unless he made a major political shift in the past year that I don't know about.

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Can't say I'm surprised the Professor would back the defendant. He's a defender and always has been.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 3:03 pm 
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Honestly looking at it, I think it is a fair thing for an attorney to say... When a police department does dick to investigate a crime for 2 months, where's the evidence to be found? I get the sense you're chomping at the bit to see that there is insufficient evidence to find this guy guilty because the "DANG, DIRTY LIBS" were angry that the case was so poorly handled from the get go. All anyone wanted was to see an investigation. I am about as happy as I can be moving forward on this considering the gross mismanagement of things in the first few months. Anyone who wants more, wants a lynch mob, anything like that is an idiot. The only exception would be that the DOJ should investigate the State of Florida's justice system because some of the stuff that happened that night should worry anyone who truly cares about justice.

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I'll go with this lawyer: http://jonathanturley.org/2012/04/20/reasonable-doubt-crime-scene-photos-shows-serious-injury-on-zimmermans-head/

Also (before seeing the photo), I'd agree with him that 2nd degree makes conviction less likely (is this like the Anthony case all over again?). Had they charged manslaughter, I think it'd be a more likely conviction. Maybe they charged second going for a plea deal?


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Never been in a situation where I was charged or pleaing anything, so bear with me here... I was under the assumption that they can reduce the charges or modify them in some way before the trial. I'm with pbr, manslaughter seems more likely here than outright murder, however when I heard the description of murder asdefined by the state of Florida, it did sound like muder at their standards.

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I get the sense you're chomping at the bit to see that there is insufficient evidence to find this guy guilty because the "DANG, DIRTY LIBS" were angry that the case was so poorly handled from the get go. All anyone wanted was to see an investigation.

But there was an investigation. It just didn't produce the outcome many wanted. Many people, including some media outlets, had this guy tried and convicted without seeing the evidence that the police had. The officers at the scene saw a different picture than what was being presented by the media and the race baiters du jour. Early on I felt, and wasn't afraid to say, that it would be prudent to see all the evidence prior to forming an opinion.

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Anyone who wants more, wants a lynch mob, anything like that is an idiot. The only exception would be that the DOJ should investigate the State of Florida's justice system because some of the stuff that happened that night should worry anyone who truly cares about justice.


Well, I'm glad you're no longer condoning violence and property destruction should this case not go the way some think it should!

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Bryce wrote:
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I get the sense you're chomping at the bit to see that there is insufficient evidence to find this guy guilty because the "DANG, DIRTY LIBS" were angry that the case was so poorly handled from the get go. All anyone wanted was to see an investigation.

But there was an investigation. It just didn't produce the outcome many wanted. Many people, including some media outlets, had this guy tried and convicted without seeing the evidence that the police had. The officers at the scene saw a different picture than what was being presented by the media and the race baiters du jour. Early on I felt, and wasn't afraid to say, that it would be prudent to see all the evidence prior to forming an opinion.

There was? where's the gun powder tests, forensic tests, diagrams of how and what took place. This was someone killing someone else, not a traffic ticket. You need to investigate this stuff a little more thoroughly than "Did he hit you?" "Yeah!" "You're free to go". I think you don't understand what people wanted, even as people were saying it. You wanted so much for it to be "rabid race-baiters lynching the innocent man" that you didn't hear any of the relevant, sound-minded people saying, that they just want justice, an investigation, and an arrest because it seems apparent a crime was committed. Bryce, please think here if you're going to talk. Things are the way they are, not the way you want them to be...

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Neckbeard wrote:
Anyone who wants more, wants a lynch mob, anything like that is an idiot. The only exception would be that the DOJ should investigate the State of Florida's justice system because some of the stuff that happened that night should worry anyone who truly cares about justice.


Well, I'm glad you're no longer condoning violence and property destruction should this case not go the way some think it should!

I don't recall ever condoning violence and I still stand by what I said regarding anger manifesting itself into property damage being understandable if it is seen that it is the fault of the Sanford PD's horrible handling of the case. I don't see why you can't understand that as being a reasonable reaction. Put yourself in the shoes of the typical young black person in a small-medium sized Florida town where there is a history of being treated poorly by the cops. One day a kid gets shot in an altercation such as this, and there is no investigation. It takes all it did to get to this point. Then the jury says not guilty because there is a significant lack of evidence, not because Trayvon instigated or any reason such as that, but because the cops did not do their job initially. You see this as more of the same... The police letting someone get away with murder. Then to consider things such as Rodney King in LA. Malice Green in Detroit. The police are supposed to be the institution that ensures civility, but they give every reason for a segment of the population to perceive the police as actively working against them by either not investigating potential crimes against them or by outright beating people sometimes to death. We all have heard stories from black friends about the cops being rough with them or much, much worse. We don't see or live that life as white guys. To think that this treatment is something that should be perpetually accepted by the ones with give authority to for enforcing the rules of society is lunacy. Things like what happened in LA in 1990 are a consequence of something. People don't just loot for "free stuff" or burn down buildings or break anything they see for the hell of it. It's an expression of a feeling of active disengagement from society which is well-founded. Think critically here Bryce, I encourage you to not just simply see the action but consider what the action is a consequence of.

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Bryce wants to dig up Treyvon and arrest him posthumously. What a dick.


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