Netanyahu jeopardizes US relationship

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Netanyahu's actions are a response to the existential threats posed by Hamas, which has a long history of aggression towards Israel. The high casualty toll is tragic but should be attributed to Hamas, which uses civilian areas as shields for its military operations. While the strain on the U.S.-Israel relationship is regrettable, Israel's security decisions are imperative in safeguarding its citizens. Netanyahu's tough stance is necessary to dismantle Hamas's capabilities and ensure Israel's long-term stability and security.

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Netanyahu's actions are a response to the existential threats posed by Hamas, which has a long history of aggression towards Israel. The high casualty toll is tragic but should be attributed to Hamas, which uses civilian areas as shields for its military operations. While the strain on the U.S.-Israel relationship is regrettable, Israel's security decisions are imperative in safeguarding its citizens. Netanyahu's tough stance is necessary to dismantle Hamas's capabilities and ensure Israel's long-term stability and security.

The rest of the world and many if not most of the Israeli people disagree with your logic. That is why Netanyahu is losing support, he is using a strategy that has proven to be more harmful than successful.

Turkey has suspended trade with Israel. The world’s top court is considering whether Israeli leaders have committed genocide. Protests have overtaken cities and campuses worldwide. Ireland and Spain say they will recognize Palestine as a state by the end of the month.

Even the United States — long Israel’s closest ally and benefactor — is threatening for the first time since the war began to withhold certain arms shipments.

Seven months after much of the world pledged its support to Israel following a Hamas-led terrorist attack, the country finds itself increasingly isolated. With a war that has killed more than 34,000 Palestinians and left Gaza on the verge of famine, any international good will that Israel amassed on Oct. 7 has been all but lost.

Of greatest concern to Israel: splintering relations with the United States. President Biden, once quiet about his expectations that Israel limit civilian deaths and increase access to humanitarian aid, has become more vocal amid partisan political pressure in an election year.

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Netanyahu's loss of support has more to do with the world being unprepared for the brutality of Israel than anything else, but what will happen if third parties step in to negotiate peace or to broker some sort of deal? What does history tell us? How many times do these attacks need to happen? When you have sub-human slime paraglide into your country and attack you, its time to take the kid gloves off.

And this isn't the first time Israel has been attacked, this has been happening for many decades. The fool will point to Israel as the cause, but history teaches otherwise. Basically, this inhumane and barbaric fight will happen sooner or later, and by pulling them apart now, the only lesson learned will be that when the going gets tough, make sure more dead civilians and children end up on camera. Of course its horrifying and I hate that it is this way, but all that will happen by pulling them apart now is a guarantee that more civilians and children will be used as shields in the future because these bastards will learn that it is their most effective tactic to get what they want.

Don't be naive, stopping this war right now guarantees that it will start back up again when Hamas is good and ready. The Palestinians are in a position where their greatest motivator is fear, and they need to be taught to fear Israel's reaction to continued involvement with Hamas more than Hamas themselves. Once that happens, and the Palestinians remove Hamas, then peace can happen. But if it takes Israel removing every Palestinian to snuff out Hamas, the history of the situation is evidence enough that such an undertaking is warranted.

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Whether or not the response is disproportionate depends on the scale and dimensions measured.

If we look at it from the standpoint of scale being what they are capable of doing, then Hamas is doing all they can do. This is relevant because if they could do more, they would. If we look at the issue from a temporal standpoint, then it is evident that there is a long-standing interest on the side of Hamas toward the destruction of Israel. Every time this happens, Israel clobbers some terrorists and the world coddles the terrorists in return, begging them to stop. What is the learned behavior from all this? I would say the terrorists are learning that there's no real consequences and that innocent people make excellent shields.

I am far from Israel's biggest fan, but if you look at this whole situation objectively, its time to let them do their worst. HAM ASS needs to learn their lesson.

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I am far from Israel's biggest fan, but if you look at this whole situation objectively, its time to let them do their worst. HAM ASS needs to learn their lesson.

By killing thousands of civilians? That just creates more radicals.

If the civilians come to fear Israel more than Ham Ass, then they will stop letting themselves be shields. The civilians aren't 100% innocent here. They let Ham Ass infiltrate their entire system.

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I am far from Israel's biggest fan, but if you look at this whole situation objectively, its time to let them do their worst. HAM ASS needs to learn their lesson.

By killing thousands of civilians? That just creates more radicals.

If the civilians come to fear Israel more than Ham Ass, then they will stop letting themselves be shields. The civilians aren't 100% innocent here. They let Ham Ass infiltrate their entire system.

You should keep learning about radicalized civilians, history has disproven what you suggest will happen.

Not exactly.

History from this very specific conflict has taught us a few lessons you seem eager to ignore. One of those lessons is that if you pull these two apart now, there will just be more fighting later. Let them sort it out themselves.

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I am far from Israel's biggest fan, but if you look at this whole situation objectively, its time to let them do their worst. HAM ASS needs to learn their lesson.

By killing thousands of civilians? That just creates more radicals.

If the civilians come to fear Israel more than Ham Ass, then they will stop letting themselves be shields. The civilians aren't 100% innocent here. They let Ham Ass infiltrate their entire system.

You should keep learning about radicalized civilians, history has disproven what you suggest will happen.

Not exactly.

History from this very specific conflict has taught us a few lessons you seem eager to ignore. One of those lessons is that if you pull these two apart now, there will just be more fighting later. Let them sort it out themselves.

Well, the United States disagrees

But let's be clear about what the issue really is...

I am in favor of the IDF going after terrorists who kidnapped Israeli citizens and bombed communities in Israel.

I am against the tactic of widespread bombing of civilian areas and the prevention of aid (and bombing aid workers) to reach refugees ordered to leave their homes.

This strategy that Netanyahu has ordered goes against international law and the terms under which the US supports Israel.

If the citizens have allowed terrorists to take total control, particularly in the way that Hamas has, then the citizens are complicit, at least to some degree. I really cannot find anything about Palestinians being eager to get Hamas flushed out, especially before the attack on Israel that predicated this whole mess.

If the citizens lacked interest in separating themselves before, then this is just chickens coming home to roost.

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That is an opinion, but it goes against International law, which superspeeds a conservative US opinion.

Further, protests across the nations which support Israel also have an impact.

There is a line between being Zionist and Extremist.

“International Law”

Lol

What does international law say about paragliding terrorists?

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That is an opinion, but it goes against International law, which superspeeds a conservative US opinion.

Further, protests across the nations which support Israel also have an impact.

There is a line between being Zionist and Extremist.

“International Law”

Lol

What does international law say about paragliding terrorists?

I'm sorry you are so ignorant. Try doing a bit of reading.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interna ... inal_Court

Yea this is just a wkiki and isnt a response. Stop being a goofball.

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That is an opinion, but it goes against International law, which superspeeds a conservative US opinion.

Further, protests across the nations which support Israel also have an impact.

There is a line between being Zionist and Extremist.

“International Law”

Lol

What does international law say about paragliding terrorists?

I'm sorry you are so ignorant. Try doing a bit of reading.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interna ... inal_Court

Yea this is just a wkiki and isnt a response. Stop being a goofball.

Do you even know what the Geneva Convention was?

You know very well that the Geneva Convention doesn't apply.

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That sure is a lot of tank ammo. Hopefully, it brings a swift end to this all.

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That sure is a lot of tank ammo. Hopefully, it brings a swift end to this all.

Did you miss the “not expected to yield any deliveries for several years” part or do you have an Amish definition of swift?

Yes

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I am a Jaw that stands with Israel. Gentiles may not understand why some if not most do but there it is and I am not ashamed of my stance at all. Hamas shoulders the responsibility for what happens to those under its leadership. They want to wipe Israel and its people from the face of the planet so they reap what they sew.

I would say that those under the leadership of Hamas shoulder the responsibility of what Hamas does as well.

Of course, no one wants to see what is happening right now, but did the Palestinians really take steps to prevent Hamas from taking as much power and influence as they now hold? No one is entirely innocent in this case and the world needs to learn that there are consequences that come allowing a terror organization to infest the way Hamas has.

And I am not unmindful of Israel being a difficult neighbor, but if you look back over the twentieth century, look at all the times that Israel was attacked. The only lesson learned was that when the heat got too heavy, the international community would step in. You don't learn to not attack people when you don't experience consequences to it. Israel has made life difficult for Palestinians, but they could do worse if they wanted to and losing has consequences.

At this point, as horrific as it is, the rest of the world needs to keep its nose out of this business. And it goes two ways! If Hamas were to gain the upper hand, then the world police shouldn't do a run-in. Israel is not a band of angels here. We see right now how far they're willing to go and its not pretty. I don't see Hamas taking the upper hand, but if they did, then to the victor go the spoils.

Taking this to the table and negotiating only guarantees it will happen again.