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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:00 pm 
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"Kicked the Bucket"? I'm thinking you never experienced American Bandstand or a Rockin' New Years Eve. Or you're oblivious to Dick Clark's contributions to the music scene. "Kicked the Bucket"? Callous.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:38 pm 
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"Kicked the Bucket"? I'm thinking you never experienced American Bandstand or a Rockin' New Years Eve. Or you're oblivious to Dick Clark's contributions to the music scene. "Kicked the Bucket"? Callous.

Perhaps we could say "bought the farm". :rollin


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Have they announced whether he will still be hosting "New Year's Rockin' Eve" or does this means he will retire?

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TC Talks wrote:
Have they announced whether he will still be hosting "New Year's Rockin' Eve" or does this means he will retire?

Cold.
(however, you did induce a spit take when I read that. Well done.)


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 3:29 am 
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[quote="Lester The Nightfly"][quote="TC Talks"]Have they announced whether he will still be hosting "New Year's Rockin' Eve" or does this means he will retire?[/quote]
Cold.
(however, you did induce a spit take when I read that. Well done.)[/quote]


Well Tupac came back as a hologram so maybe...

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Some Guy from Toledo wrote:
Mark Coney wrote:
"Kicked the Bucket"? I'm thinking you never experienced American Bandstand or a Rockin' New Years Eve. Or you're oblivious to Dick Clark's contributions to the music scene. "Kicked the Bucket"? Callous.

Perhaps we could say "bought the farm". :rollin


Not only did he buy the farm, he'll find a way to sell it and make a substantial profit. When he sells the farm, he will retain the right to use it as a basis for programming.

82. That's 11 years younger than Mike Wallace. 10 years younger than Andy Rooney. Eight years younger than Paul Harvey.


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82. That's 11 years younger than Mike Wallace. 10 years younger than Andy Rooney. Eight years younger than Paul Harvey.

We could've had another 10-15 years if he had stuck around (and I'm not saying that to be a jerk).


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I don't think that kicked the bucket is the proper tribute to this man. I've seen posts about the passing of lesser celebrities on this board that didn't contain that language.

Dick Clark was a true pioneer in television and radio. To introduce a concept like American Bandstand in the 1950's and expose millions of Americans to early rock and roll was groundbreaking, and he additionally broke down (along with Ed Sullivan) many racial barriers that existed in American popular music in the 50's and 60's. Introducing his New Year's Rockin' Eve to the younger generation in 1972 (those who may no longer have been the target audience of Guy Lombardo) was equally as significant. Let's not forget his successful run as a game-show host when the genre was still big, and building up the United Stations Radio Network (which bought out RKO Radio in 1984) to be a quality syndicator of a wide variety of programming. The guy was not only a top-notch personality, but a top-notch businessman as well.

He also became a spokesman for Diabetes-related causes when he learned he had the disease, and, IMO, was an inspiration for millions of Americans who had suffered from strokes when he put himself out there in the public eye every New Year's Eve, admitting that he had suffered a setback, but showing that a stroke is not the end of the world. I know many have criticized him for doing so, but I admire him for having the guts to go on despite his stroke, and showing that your don't have to just crawl in a hole and wait to die. He was active despite it all, and I salute him for that.

Bottom line....I think he deserves a tribute thread instead of just a kicked the bucket thread. He was indeed a pioneer.


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I don't think that kicked the bucket is the proper tribute to this man. I've seen posts about the passing of lesser celebrities on this board that didn't contain that language.

Dick Clark was a true pioneer in television and radio. To introduce a concept like American Bandstand in the 1950's and expose millions of Americans to early rock and roll was groundbreaking, and he additionally broke down (along with Ed Sullivan) many racial barriers that existed in American popular music in the 50's and 60's. Introducing his New Year's Rockin' Eve to the younger generation in 1972 (those who may no longer have been the target audience of Guy Lombardo) was equally as significant. Let's not forget his successful run as a game-show host when the genre was still big, and building up the United Stations Radio Network (which bought out RKO Radio in 1984) to be a quality syndicator of a wide variety of programming. The guy was not only a top-notch personality, but a top-notch businessman as well.

He also became a spokesman for Diabetes-related causes when he learned he had the disease, and, IMO, was an inspiration for millions of Americans who had suffered from strokes when he put himself out there in the public eye every New Year's Eve, admitting that he had suffered a setback, but showing that a stroke is not the end of the world. I know many have criticized him for doing so, but I admire him for having the guts to go on despite his stroke, and showing that your don't have to just crawl in a hole and wait to die. He was active despite it all, and I salute him for that.

Bottom line....I think he deserves a tribute thread instead of just a kicked the bucket thread. He was indeed a pioneer.


Bull!

He did not "introduce" the concept of Bandstand. WFIL-TV created the show and he took it over from the original host, Bob Horn. Neither was Bandstand the first TV show using the "concept" of a radio DJ playing records on TV while kids danced. Lots of local stations did it, including a show on WXYZ-TV hosted by Ed McKenize.

He made it possible for baby boomers who couldn't get dates on New Year's Eve to watch something other than Guy Lombardo with their parents: That's significant?? Which raises the question why anyone staying at home on the biggest party night of the year want to watch others pretend to party (taped in August) on TV?

Neither was he the first to book Black music acts. It was quite common on the prime time variety shows.

Dick Clark did pioneer unethical business practices. Other (more talented) jocks took pay-offs from record companies to play records. They got fired (including legendary jock Alan Freed and Detroit's Mickey Schorr). Dick Clark invested in record, publishing and promotion companies and then played records and booked artists in which he had a financial interest. He was allowed to get away with it.

He was a smarmy game show host and a producer of schlock - not quality. Award shows and blooper shows. He was a money grubbing media ho.

He was not overweight, even in old age. How did the guy give himself Type II diabetes?

The media obits have gone overboard with their Clark hagiography. Time to bury Clark, not praise him. He said himself that he did not shape culture, he sold it. And he made a lot of money doing it.


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Crack a textbook while you're at the highschool library and read up on Type II. :red

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He was a TV pioneer.

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Smarmy game show host? I thought he did a great job with the $25,000 Pyramid. Overall, I appreciated his hosting style regardless of program. He was not one to sensationalize, always came across as very level-headed, and made sure the participants were front & center, not himself.

MTV is what killed American Bandstand. I am unsure exactly how influential that program was. Which iconic artists did it introduce? (I am asking that sincerely; it is not meant to be a rhetorical question.)

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Smarmy game show host? I thought he did a great job with the $25,000 Pyramid. Overall, I appreciated his hosting style regardless of program. He was not one to sensationalize, always came across as very level-headed, and made sure the participants were front & center, not himself.

MTV is what killed American Bandstand. I am unsure exactly how influential that program was. Which iconic artists did it introduce? (I am asking that sincerely; it is not meant to be a rhetorical question.)


I agree he wasn't as smarmy on Pyramid. Of course, Clark did not own or produce that show. He was working for Bob Stewart (who also created To Tell The Truth, The Price Is Right and Password).

How influential was Bandstand or MTV? If Bandstand, unfortunately many of the performers or records Clark chose to "introduce" were those in which he had a financial interest. Later on, other acts did get early national exposure on Bandstand but the program was not a trend setter. Bandstand and Philly radio, in general, lagged behind other markets in breaking new acts and new hits. Detroit was more of a trend-setter. New records would be getting airplay in Detroit three or four weeks before Chicago, Philly and other markets picked them up. Other markets, like New York, lagged three or four weeks behind Philly and Bandstand. So, except for the South Philly pretty boy acts Dick Clark backed financially (Frankie Avalon, Fabian, Bobby Rydell ...) acts on Bandstand had already gotten attention in breakout markets before Bandstand booked them. Rosalie Trombley was influential in creating trends; Clark was good at profitably jumping on trends.

It's funny how history is being re-written. I looked at the Baltimore Sun website last night and they had the same kind of tributes (plus reader comments) to Clark and Bandstand we are seeing every where else. One thing: Bandstand wasn't seen in Baltimore. The ABC affiliate in Baltimore instead carried "The Buddy Deane Show" (which inspired the movie, Broadway show and movie musical "Hairspray"), but even so people in Baltimore are talking about how much they loved Clark and Bandstand, and how influential they were. Then again, my old man claimed he was watching when Arthur Godfrey fired Julius LaRosa (sorry, Dad, Julie was fired on Godfrey's daytime show in a segment broadcast only on radio). Memory plays tricks.


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Quit being a dork. Dick Clark rocked. He was great and a great guy. Bandstand kicked ass.


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